Help needed with nutrient

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hi all, i´m new and i need some help. i grow aurora indica, indoor and outdoor. now i have noticed that the plants outside are really nice and light fresh green and no red/violet leaf stems (sorry for my bad english). i have the feeling that the complete green plants outside grow better than the ones inside. the clones that grow indoor are very dark green and have red/violet stem and leaf stems. i dont fertilize to mutch, i have tryed it with more and also with less fertilizer. at the moment i use hesi and canna terra professional soil. i will upload pics as soon as i can, but i hope i get help before that. it would be nice if the indoor plants would also look like lettuce nice and vital :( please i hope u guys can help. coud it maybe that they don´t get enough fresh air, cause the soil and fertilizer are the same??????

the first 2 pics show the green like lettuce plants and they are very vital.....

the next 2 show plans very dank green and red/violet turning leaf stem

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super mario Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sensi Seedling Joined: 13 January 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 31	Quote Reply Topic: Help needed with nutrient Posted: 15 June 2012 at 18:05
	hi all, i´m new and i need some help. i grow aurora indica, indoor and outdoor. now i have noticed that the plants outside are really nice and light fresh green and no red/violet leaf stems (sorry for my bad english). i have the feeling that the complete green plants outside grow better than the ones inside. the clones that grow indoor are very dark green and have red/violet stem and leaf stems. i dont fertilize to mutch, i have tryed it with more and also with less fertilizer. at the moment i use hesi and canna terra professional soil. i will upload pics as soon as i can, but i hope i get help before that. it would be nice if the indoor plants would also look like lettuce nice and vital :( please i hope u guys can help. coud it maybe that they don´t get enough fresh air, cause the soil and fertilizer are the same?????? the first 2 pics show the green like lettuce plants and they are very vital..... the next 2 show plans very dank green and red/violet turning leaf stem

sicklehand Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sensi Advanced Grower Joined: 20 February 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1408	Quote Reply Posted: 15 June 2012 at 19:16
	if you have taken the clones from a plant that has grown outside then grown the clones indoors they can become stressed due to the change of environment, but from the look of your pics they look fine maybe just keep an eye on them for signs of nutrient deff good luck

super mario Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sensi Seedling Joined: 13 January 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 31	Quote Reply Posted: 15 June 2012 at 20:37
	the motherplant was raised and cloned indoor, after the clones have rooted they continued growth for about 2 1/2 weeks.... then half was put outside and other half inside. motherplant has the red/violet coloring to.... every second time i water with mild solution, the oder water is just tap water with ph of 6,5

Melvan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sensi Advanced Grower Joined: 08 November 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 343	Quote Reply Posted: 16 June 2012 at 02:54
	I can't see the pics, but normally if you have a purple/red color change in your stems and branches you have a P deficiency. Of course, it could also be a strain, like many are, that naturally has this color to its stems, or striped stems, when grow indoors. Really dark leaves that curl and have brown tips means you are over feeding. If they are light green with yellow tips, you're under feeding. Good luck.

super mario Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sensi Seedling Joined: 13 January 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 31	Quote Reply Posted: 16 June 2012 at 09:45
	the indoor ones are dark green with NO burns or curly leaves, momy is giving good clones that finish rooting afer 9-10days. i´ll try to add some more hesi p+k to regular tap water with ph of 6,5 and give that to one ort 2 plants to see difference. the pic work now regards

mellow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sensi Advanced Grower Joined: 12 August 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3295	Quote Reply Posted: 16 June 2012 at 11:54
	I was always lead to believe that red/purple stems was due to cold?

super mario Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sensi Seedling Joined: 13 January 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 31	Quote Reply Posted: 16 June 2012 at 13:49
	as i said the light green ones were outside the last weeks and for german weather it was good and not to cold like 15° +-2°, was pretty good. the building we live in was a big mess when it was build and we have very hard drafts in the appartment and it often happens that our home is colder than outside :( . if its just due to cold temp, i don´t know, how is the overall opinion then from the plants, cause i´m just a little worried. the red(violet coloring i get on most strains i grow indoor and outdoors they all turn green. that confuses me!

assinomen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sensi Advanced Grower Joined: 08 December 2011 Location: interzone Online Status: Offline Posts: 426	Quote Reply Posted: 16 June 2012 at 19:05
	hi mario The plants look very simillar in colour to me (this could be the camera).If your indoor plants are too green in your opinion(bear in mind that if they are darker than the outdoor ones it may be due to the indoor conditions being better)(also you said they are not over fertillised) you could just lower the ec a little(nutrient strength).soloutions are usualy well balanced,so giving more nutrients may not be needed:and may be a waste. Another factor could be the light,indoor bulbs will never equal the sun in a balanced spectrum:Your indoor plants will look slightly different to the outdoor because they are in a different enviroment.
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super mario Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sensi Seedling Joined: 13 January 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 31	Quote Reply Posted: 17 June 2012 at 00:47
	okay thanks, i´ll keep these advices in mind. i have another question my 250watt flower system is running 12/12 7 days a week, in what interwalls do i change the ballast and bulb? i have gib flower 250 watts but i think i need a new one and i want to try some better quality like phillips or osram.....the ballast i use is also from Gib lightning /Pro VT? how longs the lifetime of these parts?

mellow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sensi Advanced Grower Joined: 12 August 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3295	Quote Reply Posted: 17 June 2012 at 01:05
	not sure how long bulbs last, but I change mine every 2/3 grows (except the CFL's).