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    Posted: 15 June 2012 at 19:48
mmmm wot 2 do .hi guys im gunna giv it a go sick of british weather so the garage is gunna get a re vamp.im ordering a 1.5x1.5x2m tent with 600w hps and wilma big 4 pot system and poss a t5 4 tube for vegging.wot i cant decide is white widow scrog or nl#5xhaze full bush.anyone have any comment on good or bad  , pros or cons .im a big boy now so can take a bit of critisism if thats how its spelt. 
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  Quote COLLIE77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 June 2012 at 23:19
i can only comment on growing a full plant in 600w and i am aslo from uk and if u do it properly its 10 times better than stuff on the street enjoy
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cheers m8 wot u mean by properly any tips.
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  Quote organicgrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2012 at 02:26
Originally posted by jon the joiner

mmmm wot 2 do .hi guys im gunna giv it a go sick of british weather so the garage is gunna get a re vamp.im ordering a 1.5x1.5x2m tent with 600w hps and wilma big 4 pot system and poss a t5 4 tube for vegging.wot i cant decide is white widow scrog or nl#5xhaze full bush.anyone have any comment on good or bad  , pros or cons .im a big boy now so can take a bit of critisism if thats how its spelt. 
thanks 4 looking c ya later

Hi

I believe any plant can be scrogged. I would choose plants based on the type of smoke I wanted to have.

On the subject of full bush vs. scrog under 600w: I would go for scrog because growing full untrained bush would be a waste of expensive artificial light. Scrog gives you an even canopy which is more efficient without any loss in quality. That is of course if you're already comfortable with training your plants or are willing to experience and learn. There is a learning curve to training but once you get the hang of it you will get excellent results.

Best of luck,

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id have to agree with OG, large plants take up alot of space with some parts of the plants(lower bud sites) not receiving enough light you can combat this by harvesting in two phases letting the lower buds ripen a couple of weeks after you've taken the top/ripe ones. the main draw back of a scrog is the longer veg time but if you not on a deadline then go for it youll reap a larger harvest at one time another draw back is plant are not easily moved for say bug attack mites etc

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  Quote COLLIE77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2012 at 13:46
well i was lead to belive that scrog was of a lesser quality because of all the stress the plant goes though. however indicas seem very robust so maybe try that first.
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  Quote organicgrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2012 at 14:51
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well i was lead to belive that scrog was of a lesser quality because of all the stress the plant goes though. however indicas seem very robust so maybe try that first.

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These types of subjects remain controversial; here's my take on the subject:

I believe in nature, there is no such thing as an entirely stress-less condition. All things are constantly under some form of stress and constantly interacting with it. This of course applies to plants as well. In growing, what messes things up is the loss of balance between the amount of stress received, and the plants' ability to respond to it. In indoor grows, this happens when there is prolonged exposure to unnecessary and uncontrolled stress.

ScrOG is a form of LST (Low Stress Training) so whatever amount of stress the plants experience will be less than they do when they are let's say pruned. Moreover, the stress will be temporary and limited to the vegetative phase or maybe early flower. Therefore, the plants have a long time afterwards to recover and bloom with negligible loss in quality as compared to technical benefits.

As a further note: Not all types of stresses are counter-productive. Some can even be quite beneficial; depending on what you are trying to achieve. Take for example the SuperCropping technique; it is a highly stressful practice but I have watched people who knew what they were doing achieve very good results using it.  Another example: Many experienced growers swear that exposing the cannabis plants to a few days of total darkness and drought at the very end of the grow cycle will cause the end product to contain more resin; and both practices are highly stressful to a plant. What's more? Cold stress near the end of bloom creates some of those purple buds we all know and love. I could go on and on :)

I agree with your comment on Indica dominants though. I think they are much easier to control indoors than Sativas and generally not as fussy.

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  Quote jon the joiner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2012 at 08:44
ok guys cheers 4 that scrog it will be then.ok heres another question any particular strain work best for scrog or is it just the growers technique and experience.
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  Quote COLLIE77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2012 at 16:47
if i was in your position i would choose ed rosenthal although different females maybe more sativa.So for first grow cant go wrong with any indica from sensi choice is yours u cant buy bad here :)
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  Quote organicgrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2012 at 20:48
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ok guys cheers 4 that scrog it will be then.ok heres another question any particular strain work best for scrog or is it just the growers technique and experience.
cheers guys c ya later


As sickle already mentioned there are drawbacks to scrog. You have to be very careful with the design/maintenance of your system because as sickle said, once the plants grow into the screen they won't be easily moved.

All strains can be trained in my opinion, although some individual plants may not respond well to being manipulated.  Mostly it is the grower's technique and experience, but generally the more compact and vigorous the plant is, the easier it will be to scrog it neatly.

I think you can go for any of Sensi's indica dominant strains. All of them come from great genetic backgrounds.

Safest course of action would be to grow your seed generation using a simpler form of training, (topping + tying to the pot for example) then using clones for scrog afterwards. This way you will get to know your plants better and gain some experience with training before committing to scrog.  Also clones are more predictable and easier to prepare from early on for scrog than plants grown from seed.

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