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hidingtree ![]() Sensi Seedling ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 April 2006 Location: United States Posts: 20 |
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hello every one . hopefully some one could help with this question . ok so here goes . if ruderalis indica is crossed with ruderalis indica ... the possible outcome could be : 1) indica not autoflowering , or 2) auto flowering straight ruderalis , or 3) ruderalis indica with same or similar properties started with . thanks for any info .
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enkigooroo ![]() Sensi Advanced Grower ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 September 2005 Location: Albania Posts: 239 |
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Hi hidingtree,
Since the Ruderalis Indica is a F-1 hybrid-(I assume), crossing them would result in a batch of F-2 seeds with the possible offspring ranging from pure Indica to pure Ruderalis and everything inbetween. A great way to look for some new combinations, if you have the time.
Cheers,
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hidingtree ![]() Sensi Seedling ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 April 2006 Location: United States Posts: 20 |
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thanks , enkigooroo. that is what i kind of assumed . i have read about alot of people crossing lowryder (a ruderalis combination (i think))and complaining of low potency from the resulting seeds . also a friend of mine many years ago had a strain he referred to as an indica ruderalis which was very potent ..... not sure if it was f-1 or f-2 ......
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Ganja ![]() Sensi Administrator ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 June 2003 Posts: 6796 |
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I think the
most likely outcomes would be: a) an
f2 generation that is very similar to the f1 generation, with all the features
expressed by the individual parent plants. or b) an
f2 generation with 50% of plants almost indistinguishable from the f1
generation, 25% photosensitive Indicas and 25% leaning more towards the
original Ruderalis ancestor. If
seeds are made from a single selected male and female, the first option is more
likely. If
all males are left in the garden to freely pollinate all females, the likelihood
of the second option increases. Even
with uncontrolled pollination, the first option is still a strong possibility,
as the f1 generation of Ruderalis Indica is usually very uniform, so the
parents which contributed genes to the f2 seeds should have most features in
common. Another
reason that the first option is more likely has to do with the breeding history
of the Ruderalis strains. Going
back to the old Seed Bank catalogues (mid 1980s), there were four Ruderalis
strains on offer. Of those four, the two that are still available today are
Ruderalis Indica and Ruderalis Skunk. Ruderalis
Skunk is a more powerful hybrid - the original Ruderalis cultivar, bred with a
powerful, dominant Skunk. The result is a much more potent strain that displays
the auto-flowering tendency in 50% of plants grown from seed. |
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AmeriSkunk ![]() Sensi Seedling ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 49 |
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Ganja, are all ruderalis plants auto-flowering?
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Ganja ![]() Sensi Administrator ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 June 2003 Posts: 6796 |
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Wild ones - I suppose they must be.
Auto-flowering is the only distinct trait that marks Ruderalis out as a potentially different species (and this point is still debated, 'ruderalis' may just be another regional adaption by the supremely adaptable cannabis plant). Without the auto-flowering characteristic, I'd think that a wild Ruderalis plant would be almost indistinguishable from a non-psychoactive plant with an Indica growth pattern. Hybrids made from Ruderalis plants will display the autoflowering tendency in varying amounts -from all or most offspring auto-flowering, to few or none. |
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hidingtree ![]() Sensi Seedling ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 April 2006 Location: United States Posts: 20 |
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thanks for the info to all .... recently began an experiment with sensi's ruderalis indica .... (yet only 3 of the 16 seeds germinated (they were in an old style sensi envelope not the new packaging ) however , i ordered 2. 1 was in new pack so i tried the older ones with low success rate as stated . i'll let y'all know how the next ones work out ... where i live can be a tricky grow season so some super fast auto flowering crosses would be very beneficial .... ~hidingtree
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Ganja ![]() Sensi Administrator ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 June 2003 Posts: 6796 |
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You ordered 2 packs from Sensi and received an old pack together with a new pack?
Or were they ordered at different times? If the old pack was from Sensi, I'd recommend that you email info@sensiseeds.com with you order details and a description of your germination technique and your results. |
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hidingtree ![]() Sensi Seedling ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 April 2006 Location: United States Posts: 20 |
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hey ganja , thanks ... but unfortunately i orderered from a seed vendor in england because i didn't think sensi would ship to united states . anyway i've been germinating cannabis seeds for years using this simple method with 100% success unless the seeds are not viable ... soaked seeds in water (until they pop open usually 24-48 hrs.)then place them in a moist paper towel ,this then goes into a cup , bowl ,or plastic bag which is then sealed with plastic wrap or the zipper seal on the bag . i wait until they are about 1-2 cm. sticking out of the shell and then they go into the soil .... works well every time .~hidingtree
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Ganja ![]() Sensi Administrator ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 June 2003 Posts: 6796 |
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Duh, silly me. I didn't even look at your
'Location'. If seeds don’t germinate after submersion,
the cause of their failure is less certain. It could be that they were simply non-viable or that the germination method led to the poor results. |
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