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  Quote Ganja Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2011 at 17:11
I think the tides are a result of the earth rotating on its own axis as the moon orbits it, rather than fluctuating gravitational pull from the moon.

The moon takes just under 28 days to complete its orbit of the earth, but the earth itself is spinning at 1400kph+so that the oceans pass under the moon's pull every 24 hrs.

The moon has a slightly elliptical orbit, so it is a little closer to earth at certain times in the month. But I don't think this corresponds with full/new moons.

The biggest effect - spring tides, where salt water can pour back up rivers - happen when the sun and moon are exerting gravitational pull on the same part of earth at the same time.
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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2011 at 17:24
thats exactly the point, if you prove something , the opposit is also right..
thats science.
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  Quote Ganja Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2011 at 17:29
Um ... I think that's magic, not science. 
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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2011 at 18:07
Ganja i told earlier i am a very own wise person, thats me!
i remember a song of BILLY IDOL  "white wedding"
he sings : there is nothing sure in his world, there is nothing pure in his world..
Nothing is pure, thats why we can discuss things..
Sham 69 (also a punkband) sings: Everybody is wrong everybody is right. Can you tell me that im right can you tell me that im wrong..
my english is not good enough to start  a good discussion about these thesis, but my life experience says ( with a lot of smoking ofcourse) nothing is pure...
every thesis is wrong and right, if so than if someone says this is true, it has most times to do with money in someway. There is more bizniz if people grow hydro for example, better is mostly bad for our planet in the long run..better for economy means in my eyes worse for nature.. we dont have nature in holland its all man made!! that worries me, thats why i can do very ownwise, thats me!
You dont have to agree with me, because we are all different!
everybody is wrong and right!
My opinions are never meant personal, its just my vision, i am a free man!
i can talk about this subject and others for days and days and the result will always be people are different and every body is wrong AND right!
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  Quote Ganja Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2011 at 18:15
When it comes to human matters - history, art, economics, religion, love - i try not to think of anything as being 100% true.

Science - especially things like maths and astronomy - tends to be more objective and some things revealed by science can be said to be 100% true (or as close as makes no difference).

Subjectively, I love the moon and have an interest in if and why her subtle influence is felt on the planet (ie not the measurable gravitational effect).

Objectively, part of me yells that it's probably not true in an astronomical sense.

But if one believes in the influence, belief itself appears to have measurable effects in the world (see: placebos et al).
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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2011 at 18:57
yeah its believe, i believe mostly the opposit, because i m ownwise and it gives me a feeling that it keeps earth in balance, and human thinking.
Some people say that planets do have influence on temperature on earth.
Some planets have a cold radiation, others a warm radiation , if they are in line they can have extra influence, it might be..
another thing: weed is strange for example if i buy it from somebody i like i get more stoned than that i buy it from a criminal that i dont trust.. isnt that strange?? It works only with cannabis, other drugs are just good or bad! Strange! Life is intresting %3coint
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  Quote G.A. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 March 2011 at 13:45
there is more resign production at light on time. but the diff is so minimal only the lab results will show the diff and we cant realy tell as we arengt as sensitive as the lab is. and thc dosent turn to cbd., ...thc degrades to c
 
messed up, it wont let me go back a line and add the cbn
 
 
 
THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) gets a user high, a larger THC content will produce a stronger high. Without THC you don't get high.

CBD (Cannabidiol) increases some of the effects of THC and decreases other effects of THC. High levels of THC and low levels of CBD contribute to a strong, clear headed, more energetic high.
Cannabis that has a high level of both THC and CBD will produce a strong head-stone that feels almost dreamlike. Cannabis that has low levels of THC and high levels of CBD produces more of a stoned feeling. The mind feels dull and the body feels tired.

CBN (Cannabinol) is produced as THC ages and breaks down, this process is known as oxidization. High levels of CBN tend to make the user feel messed up rather than high.
CBN levels can be kept to a minimum by storing cannabis products in a dark, cool, airtight environment. Marijuana should be dry prior to storage, and may have to be dried again after being stored somewhere that is humid.

THCV (Tetrahydrocannabivarin) is found primarily in strains of African and Asian cannabis. THCV increases the speed and intensity of THC effects, but also causes the high to end sooner. Weed that smells strong (prior to smoking) might indicate a high level of THCV.

CBC (Cannabichromene) is probably not psychoactive in pure form but is thought to interact with THC to enhance the high.

CBL (Cannabicyclol) is a degradative product like CBN. Light converts CBC to CBL.
If you are a grower, you can experiment with different strains of cannabis to produce the various qualities you seek. A medical user looking for something with sleep inducing properties might want to produce a crop that has high levels of CBD.
Another user looking for a more energetic high will want to grow a strain that has high levels of THC and low levels of CBD. In general, Cannabis sativa has lower levels of CBD and higher levels of THC. Cannabis indica has higher amounts of CBD and lower amounts of THC than sativa. See marijuana strains.
 
Cannabis is unique in many ways. Of all plants, it is the only genus known to produce chemical substances known as herbal cannabinoids. These cannabinoids are the psychoactive ingredients of marijuana; they are what get you high, buzzed, or stoned. By 1974, there were 37 naturally occurring cannabinoids that had been discovered.
There are 3 types of cannabinoids:
--- Herbal: occur naturally only in the cannabis plant
--- Endogenous: occur naturally in humans and other animals
--- Synthetic: cannabinoids produced in a lab
Most of the cannabinoids appear in very small amounts (less than .01 percent of total cannabinoids) and are not considered psychoactive, or else not important to the high. Many are simply homologues or analogues (similar structure or function) to the few major cannabinoids which are listed.
There are several numbering systems used for cannabinoids. The system used here is based on formal chemical rules for numbering pyran compounds (any of a class of organic compounds of the heterocyclic series in which five carbon atoms and one oxygen atom are present in a ring structure). Another common system is used more by Europeans and is based on a monoterpenoid system which is more useful considering the biogenesis of the compound.




Tetrahydrocannabinol - THC

Delta 9-trans-tetrahydrocannabinol - delta-9 THC is the main psychotomimetic (mindbending) ingredient of marijuana. Estimates state that 70 to 100 percent of the marijuana high results from the delta-9 THC present. It occurs in almost all cannabis in concentrations that vary from traces to about 95 percent of all the cannabinoids in the sample.
In very potent strains, carefully prepared marijuana can be 30 percent delta-9 THC by dry weight (seeds and stems removed from flowering buds). Buds are the popular name given to masses of female flowers that form distinct clusters.
Delta 8-trans-tetrahydrocannabinol - delta-8 THC is reported in low concentration, less than one percent of the delta-9 THC present. Its activity is slightly less than that of delta-9 THC. It may be an artefact of the extraction/analysis process. Almost everyone who uses the term THC, refers to delta-9 THC and delta-8 THC combined, as THC.

Cannabidiol - CBD

Cannabidiol - CBD also occurs in almost all strains. Concentration range from none, to about 95 percent of the total cannabinoids present. THC and CBD are the two most abundant naturally occurring cannabinoids. CBD is not psychotomimetic in the pure form, although it does have sedative, analgesic, and antibiotic properties.
In order for CBD to affect the high, THC must be present in quantities ordinarily psychoactive. CBD can contribute to the high by interacting with THC to potentiate (enhance) or antagonize (interfere or lessen) certain qualities of the high.
CBD appears to potentiate the depressant effects of THC and antagonize is excitatory effects. CBD also delays the onset of the high but can make it last considerably longer (as much as twice as long). The kind of grass that takes a while to come on but keeps coming on.
Opinions are conflicting as to whether it increases or decreases the intensity of the high, intensity and high being difficult to define. Terms such as knock-out or sleepy, dreamlike, or melancholic are often used to describe the high from grass with sizeable proportions of CBD and THC.
When only small amounts of THC are present with high proportions of CBD, the high is more of a buzz, and the mind feels dull and the body de-energized.

Cannabinol - CBN

Cannabinol - CBN is not produced by the plant per se. It is the degradation (oxidative) product of THC. Fresh samples of marijuana contain very little CBN but curing, poor storage, or processing such as when making hashish, can cause much of the THC to be oxidized to CBN. Pure forms of CBN have at most 10 percent of the psychoactivity of THC.
Like CBD, it is suspected of potentiating certain aspects of the high, although so far these effects appear to be slight. CBN seems to potentiate THC's disorienting qualities. One may feel more dizzy or drugged or generally messed up but not necessarily higher.
In fact, with a high proportion of CBN, the high may start well but feels as if it never quite reaches its peak, and when coming down one feels tired or sleepy. High CBN in homegrown grass is not desirable since it represents a loss of 90 percent of the psychoactivity of its precursor THC.
 

Tetrahydrocannabivarin - THCV

Tetrahydrocannabivarin - THCV or THV is the propyl homologue of THC. In the aromatic ring the usual five-carbon pentyl is replaced by a short three-carbon propyl chain. The propyl cannabinoids have so far been found in some strains originating from Southeast and Central Asia and parts of Africa.
In one study, THCV made up to 48.23 percent (Afghanistan strain) and 53.69 percent (South Africa) of the cannabinoids found. We've seen no reports on its activity in humans. From animal studies it appears to be much faster in onset and quicker to dissipate than THC. It may be the constituent of one or two toke grass, but its activity appears to be somewhat less than that of THC. Some people use the term THC to refer collectively to delta-9 THC, delta-8 THC, and THCV.
An interesting note is that people who have a prescription for Marinol (synthetic medical THC) may be tested for THCV. Marinol contains no THCV, if a person tests positive it means they have been using marijuana, or another cannabis product. This is usually sufficient grounds to terminate the prescription of a person who has signed a contract not to ingest any cannabis while taking Marinol.

Cannabichromene - CBC

Cannabichromene - CBC is another major cannabinoid, although it is found in smaller concentrations than CBD and THC. It was previously believed that is was a minor constituent, but more exacting analysis showed that the compound often reported as CBD may actually be CBC.
Relative to THC and CBD, its concentration in the plants is low, probably not exceeding 20 percent of total cannabinoids. CBC is believed not to be psychotomimetic in humans; however, its presence in plants is purportedly very potent has led to the suspicion that it may be interacting with THC to enhance the high.

Cannabicyclol - CBL

Cannabicyclol (CBL) is a degradative product like CBN. During extraction, light converts CBC to CBL. There are no reports on its activity in humans, and it is found in small amounts, if at all, in fresh plant material.

Cannabinoids And The High

The marijuana high is a complex experience. It involves a wide range of psychical, physical, and emotional responses. The high is a subjective experience based in the individual and one's personality, mood, disposition, and experience with the drug.
Given the person, the intensity of the high depends primarily on the amount of THC present in the marijuana. Delta-9 THC is the main ingredient of marijuana and must be present in sufficient quantities for a good marijuana high.
People who smoke grass that has very little cannabinoids other than delta-9 THC usually report that the high is very intense. Most people that don't smoke daily will feel something from a joint having delta-9 THC of 3 percent concentration to material.
Cannabis products having a THC concentration of 5-10 percent would be considered good, 10-25 percent would be considered very good, and over 25 percent would be excellent quality by daily users standards. In general, we use potency to mean the sum effects of the cannabinoids and the overall high induced.
Marijuana is sometimes rated more potent than the content of delta-9 THC alone would suggest. It also elicits qualitatively different highs. The reasons for this have not been sorted out. Few clinical studies with known combinations of several cannabinoids have been undertaken with human subjects.
So far, different highs and possibly higher potency seem to be due to the interaction of delta-9 THC and other cannabinoids (THCV,CBD,CBN, and possibly CBC). Except for THCV, in the pure form, these other cannabinoids do not have much psychoactivity.
Another possibility for higher potency is that homologues of delta-9 THC with longer side chains at C-3 (and higher activity) might be found in certain marijuana strains.
Compounds with longer side chains have been made in laboratories and their activity is sometimes much higher, with estimates over 500 times that of natural delta-9 THC.
The possibility that there are non-cannabinoids that are psychoactive or interacting with the cannabinoids has not been investigated in detail. Non-cannabinoids with biological activity have been isolated from the plants, but only in very small quantities.
None are known to be psychotomimetic. However, they may contribute to the overall experience in non-mental ways, such as the stimulation of the appetite.
Different blends of cannabinoids account for the different qualities of intoxication produced by different strains of cannabis. The intensity of the high depends primarily on the amount of delta-9 THC present and on the method of ingestion.
A complex drug such as marijuana affects the mind and body in many ways. Sorting out what accounts for what response can become quite complex.

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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 March 2011 at 14:45
there is more resign production at light on time sez G.A.
most thc is produced in the dark period,sez me
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  Quote G.A. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 March 2011 at 14:49
and we are saying the same thing...,i cant chop in the dark so as soon as the light comes on i cut....if its convenient for my life schedule, maybe that should be the answer...when you can cause the diff is so minimal you wont notice by smoking it, unless you hacve a lab like we do to test this in.
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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2011 at 15:18
if you harvest food plants in the middle of the day in sunlight for example a salad plant you can throw it away next day, if harvested in the early morning it stays fresh for a few days..
It makes difference not for stonedness but for taste and if you want to keep it in stock, smoking after a month of 6, it makes difference..(some)
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