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  Quote Ganja Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2005 at 13:54

The only way the Amazon rainforest could become a giant CO2 plant is if it was all cut down and burned. The living rainforest is one of the regulators of the CO2 balance.

Green plants can't INCREASE the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

They breathe in CO2 and breathe out oxygen during light hours. The process is reversed, with them taking in oxygen and emitting CO2 in the dark hours.

The shifting balance between long and short days (in the hemispheres) evens out over the summer/winter cycle, and at the equator the days are always the same length.

It's a really well-designed, superbly balanced system. At least, it was before the addition of the youngest species (us), which is busy trying to f**k up that balance.

Interestingly, the majority of photosynthesis on earth is performed by the smallest of green plants - algae. They're the planet's biggest contributor to the breaking down of CO2, since there are uncountable trillions of them in the sea and on land. They accomplish more photosynthesis than all the other green plants on earth.

And they may be in almost as much danger as the rainforests, at the rate we're warming and polluting the ocean.

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  Quote dmdm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2005 at 12:26
but i think there could be a few tweaks to try and savepower/create more.

as a stoner sometimes my mind starts having mad ideas.
ie, i think that the cog could be designed so that that exercise bikes could be used to power certain items around the house(the super cog).

i think that there must be someway in the future of gathering power from space.

maybe a giant ring that surroundsds the earth that uses gravity to power something(stoned thoughts).

i hear you too about the algea in the sea being the best we had,now does overfishing also affect this ie breaking some cycles and removing fish that would decay naturlly and feed the ecosystem?.

so if you could sayfind out fishes migrating paths and setup giant feeding stations on route and feed with vast quantities of hemp seed.(read somewhere that there used to be fishing competition and hemp was made legal so that the british could use hemp to lure the fish and win competition)
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  Quote hashmonster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2005 at 18:07

now theres a interesting idea .... a sea of green in practically every treeless field and hillside.

im all for that personally but do you really think the us government will accept such truths, it is mostly thanks to the us' unrealistic drug policies that there is a huge "bad man" stigma attached to people who want to commercially farm hemp for its many uses that would in no doubt help save our planet from dying in choking smog clouds.

i wish for a day that mankind returns to common sense issues regarding the enviroment but regarding hemp being a totally eco friendly substitute for most man made products u have to look at the process of manufacturing to get the hemp made into items we can use which up to this point in time uses some sort of fossil fuels which we all know causes damage to the enviroment, not to mention the factories who will use electricity from the national power grid which uses mostly fossil fuels to acheive the electricity needed for the transport fro mthe growing site to the factories for processing.

so unless the whole world changes its use of fossil fuels full stop then we are all doomed to wandering around in the posion clouds that appear frequently over our major cities worldwide.

just my thought on this subject

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  Quote Ganja Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 August 2005 at 14:13

True, but without hemp, we're using the same (or more) fossil fuels and electricity to process synthetic or less enviromentally-friendly materials.

So, the use of energy is the same, plus the extra negative effects of the particular product that's being processed.

Hemp equals a net gain for the state of the environement, even if we went on using fossil energy.

Then there's the fact that hemp is one of the most efficient producers of biomass (for the production of bio-diesel, methane gas and alcohol fuel) on the planet, even when grown on a relatively small scale.

IF grown on a global/industrial scale, it could be a source of massive amounts of energy, possibly rivalling oil.

IF the infrastructure was in place.

That's two big IFs. Both entirely possible in a logistical sense, both quite unlikely in a political sense, as it would require the energy monopolies to release their stranglehold on the world.

The same argument is true of so many alternative energy sources - wind, solar, hydrogen fuel-cells for cars. They would require a lot of money and energy to be spent on building the infrastructure to make them efficient and competitive, which is often given as a reason for not doing so - "We'd be using even more resources to switch over!"

This, of course, is a childishly short-sighted answer, as it refuses to look at long-term efficiency (and by 'long term', I mean ten or twenty short years).

To me, it's like a hunter-gatherer society consciously deciding NOT to switch to agriculture - because the change from wandering and foraging to settling and farming requires too much social upheaval and work; that the concept of farming is some wacky ideal that cannot work as well as the PROVEN system of hunting (even if hunting leads to regular brushes with starvation when no animals can be caught).

If such a strange situation ever occured, the biggest obstacle would probably be the hunters themselves, who would have no wish to lose their important place in society and their cushy job of going out once or twice a month to catch an animal.

After all, in most hunter-gatherer societies, gathering must be done every day, while hunting is a much more occasional and ritualised job. Needless to say, it's mostly the women who do the gathering and almost invariably the men who do the 'important' (and much less tedious and constant) work of hunting.

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  Quote budking86401 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 October 2005 at 17:41

Hello from the US.

I believe your ideas are heart felt and sincere, but one thing will throw a wrench in your cogs.....MONEY  MONEY  MONEY. I work at a power generation plant that PROFITS anywhere from $ 750,000.00 to 1,300,00.00  US dollars per day..per day. And that is only one plant they own. So you are fighting an uphill battle to start with. A whole state planted with hemp would not produce that kind of power. The one power plant alone will light up 1.5 million homes, so you are also fighting people that do not want their lives interrupted from their electricity.

As Ganga stated..if the infrastructure were in place to use hemp for the many things it is suited for, we would be in better shape. Hemp has many other uses that would get the public to think of hemp as the norm, not the " thing we talk about behind closed doors " . One step at a time, get the idea of hemp an everyday thing without the negative connotations and we may succeed with making it more mainstream .

I am all for hemp and its attributes, and hope for a change. But hope is oly a small part of the puzzle....hard work and dedication is the key to success. Just keep your course straight and work hard. Many many things have been changed that way !!

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  Quote rudy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2005 at 18:55
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HempFlax will wager 100.000 euros to anyone who can provide proof to the contrary of the following proposition.

‘If the greenhouse effect were to be reversed by a ban on all fossil fuels and their derivatives, or if their use were to come to an end, and no more trees were allowed to be felled in order to prevent further deforestation, then there would be one natural resource able to supply the greater part of the world’s demand for products such as paper, food, textiles and construction material. This annually renewable resource can also provide energy to the industry, transport and the home. Meanwhile, the soil and the atmosphere on Earth can be restored and pollution reduced. This sustainable resource does it all at one time and is an old acquaintance: cannabis – hemp.’

You are a consumer, retailer, manufacturer, banker, politician, journalist, human being. If you do not refute the above proposition, taking responsibility for the environment will be your duty too. By effectively supporting hemp as you go. Help HempFlax.



The Chinese are using bamboes for more than thousand years to build houses, make paper, textile and food. So I think that bamboe is also a very useful plant for humanity and nature. Bamboo also grows fast and is stronger than Hemp.

This makes your thesis incorrect, by telling that Hemp is the only plant with those qualities.

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  Quote Ganja Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 January 2006 at 13:01

The Chinese have been using hemp for the same applications you mention - paper, textiles and food - for well over 3000 years.

The argument is not that no other plant has such useful qualities.

The argument is that hemp is a superior source of these qualities, that hemp has them ALL and that every part of the hemp plant has multiple, valuable applications. 

Most importantly, the argument is that ridiculous laws written in the 1930s to protect the profits of a small group of industrialists continue to prohibit 6 billion people from making use of a plant that could enrich and improve lives all over the planet.

The central thesis is not simply that cannabis is a supremely useful plant, but that it is a supremely useful plant that is in the unique and irrational position of being an illegal life-form.

No other life-form becomes illegal as soon as it begins to live -not even papaver somniferum or coca. Only hemp.

Bamboo is one of the only other plants that grows at the same speed as hemp, so it would have some similar potential uses in a global economy. 

Unlike hemp, bamboo can easily become a pest - spreading beyond its planted area and becoming very hard to remove. Bamboo is perrenial, rather than annual, so it can form 'forests' if left unattended.

Both intensively farmed hemp and intensively farmed bamboo would exclude most other plants from growing on the same land - by taking up all available light and soil with their vigourous growth.

Hemp, however, will die in the winter, leaving improved soil and no woody roots. Bamboo will live on and takes a lot of work to remove.

I don't know enough about bamboo to be sure that it depletes the soil upon which it grows, but I think it's a pretty safe bet.

Hemp improves the land upon which it grows - aerating it and using up excess water and nitrogen - and returns the nutrients it extracts if its foliage is allowed to compost back into the soil.

As to the quality of raw materials produced, hemp is greatly superior to bamboo. Hemp paper and textiles are the strongest in the world, no competition. I recently saw a shirt made out of bamboo cloth. It was finely woven and reasonably soft (a bit like raw silk) and I was amazed that such a textile could be made from bamboo.

Still, there is no way that bamboo textiles are comaparable to hemp textiles. Hemp has the strongest fibres in the natural world, and can be made into a huge range of  textiles.

I've never heard of a ship rigged with bamboo ropes and sails. The majority of ships from the time of the Phoenicians until the 19th century sailed on hemp.

Same for paper. Hemp makes the finest, strongest, longest-lasting paper in the world. No competition.

The Chinese technique of making paper from hemp was a closely guarded secret that did not make it to the west for 1000 years. Historians speculate that one of the reasons that Chinese society was so well-organised and so stable (for so long) was their invention of hemp paper - an essential information storage medium (which was no small thing in the pre-paper world).

Hemp paper was the first that could be expected to last several generations (or centuries) and thus was the only medium capable of passing down knowledge and written records. By comparison, papyrus lasts about 20 years.

The value of hemp can be seen in the Mandarin name for it - 'ma'. Originally, this word referred only to cannabis but in more recent times it has become a generic term for all fibre-producing plants, because hemp fibre was the original, definitive form that was intrinsic to Chinese culture.

Under the modern usage, hemp is now referred to as 'king ma' or 'mighty ma', to distinguish it from all the lesser fibres.

Just as hemp fibre and hemp paper are superior to bamboo (or other plant versions), hemp is a much more valuable food source than bamboo.

Bamboo shoots can be eaten, but hemp seeds contain all the essential fatty acids required by humans, and contain them in their correct proportions.

That's a significant difference - bamboo is edible, but hemp seeds contain enough nutrition to suistain human life.

Cannabis has dozens or hundreds of important medicinal applications. Bamboo has none (as far as I know)

Bamboo, in its unprocessed form (ie a bamboo stem vs the stem of a hemp plant) may be stronger than hemp, which is why it makes an excellent renewable scaffolding material (bamboo scaffolding is still in use all over Asia). However, the extracted fibres of hemp are longer and stronger than those of bamboo.

It is possible to argue that other plants could have a huge positive impact for the environment if cultivated on a massive scale. Eucalyptus trees are another good choice - they grow with amazing speed when planted outside their native Australia (they have evolved to make the most out of the limited water and nutrition available on that continent, so they explode with growth in richer environments). Eucalyptus trees have many valuable by-products that can be used for a wide variety of purposes.

The point is that cannabis (the plant, the fibre, the byproduct) does more, does it better and faster, with lower costs and with a much lower environmental impact.

Hemp farming can produce resources of comparable value to those produced by several other crops:

  • Cotton or flax for textiles (not to mention synthetics)
  • Wood-pulp for paper
  • Rice or wheat for nutrition;
  • Opium for pain relief/medicinal uses;
  • All the farming byproducts that are used to make biomass for methane and alcohol fuel.

And the all-encompassing point is that human beings are NOT ALLOWED ACCESS TO THIS VALUABLE RESOURCE, based on laws that were made in the 1920s and 1930s (back when eugenics was considered an ethical science, and fascism was considered a reasonable alternative to socialism).

It's an incredible, unprecedented situation.

One might even surmise that the reason for this abberation is not to protect the people of the world from the malicious influence of cannabis, but to protect the profits of the closely intertwined petro-chemical industries (especially when one investigates the names and organisations behind the push for cannabis prohibition).

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  Quote Falcon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2006 at 01:38
I believe that cannabis has more potential than we are aware of. Have hemp or hemplflax products been used to slow or reduce erosion In Canada a current issue being dealt with is soil erosion. In provinces such as P.E.I. there has been regulations put in place to control erosion (enforcing 3yr-rotations). Potatoes are the dominant crop in P.E.I. which leads to a lot of water pollution. This is because potatoes are a row crop that exposes bare soil to the elements. This leads to tremendous soil loss, as well as pollution of pesticides that are adsorbed to soil particles then carried away by surface flow, or leached to the groundwater. This all eventually reaches the Atlantic ocean.   Practices referred to as BMP's (Beneficial Management Practices) aim to develop ways to cause the least soil loss and disruption of the ecosystem, an example would be planting a cover crop, or simply leaving crop residues to slow water on the surface. I am wondering if hemp has been used for this purpose. I would like to add that hemp farming would be a positive step forward to farming in P.E.I. for many reasons such as reduced erosion, to break disease & insect cycles, and of course to reduce the sh*tload of pesticides applied to the Island. The problem exists in the law somewhat but mainly the innability to process the product. Has hemp been used to reduce erosion in agriculture settings or newly developed land? Some unexpected company has just arrived, see you all soon.
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  Quote DonQuichote Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2006 at 23:14
Originally posted by dmdm

i think that there must be someway in the future of gathering power from space.


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  Quote BC-ML7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2006 at 20:58
The green house effect is a natural phenomenon that can't be stopped. Humans are just speeding up this process by the use of fossil fuels and other pollutants.

   And how exactly can hemp be used as fuel (other than in a steam engine)?
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