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Topic: to Elliniko’ foro tis kannabis
Posted By: administrator
Subject: to Elliniko’ foro tis kannabis
Date Posted: 04 November 2004 at 14:05

Kalos eilzate sto kinourio Sensi Seeds foro.

Perimenoume n'akousoume ti exete na mas peite!




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Posted By: Athens
Date Posted: 06 November 2004 at 13:36

kalos sas vrikame

bravo pedia poli orea douleia kanete,

propersi nomizo, htan elinas o idioktitis tou sensi seeds einai akoma ?

xeretismous ston laki sto bulldog palace sth leidseplein.

kai pali bravo sinexiste etsi.



Posted By: ramboldo
Date Posted: 08 November 2004 at 16:08

Kali eimera

Orea pou sas akuo!

O idioxtitis den einai Ellinas ,pos to skeftikate? 



Posted By: daglas
Date Posted: 11 November 2004 at 10:07

bravo mages poli kali i idea  sas.

synexiste etsi



Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 13 November 2004 at 12:28

Yiasas magges.

 

Yia to kalo tou Ellinikou forum pou kalo aniksane e8o, 8elo na kano ena post yia clons poutoho kani post se alo forum e8o ke kabosous mines.  Efhome na voi8isi tous patriotes pou 8eloune na ma8oune pos yinounde ta klons efkola.  Ebros.

 

CLONING CANNABIS - KLONOPISI CANNAVI


Iparhoune tris tropi yia klonopisi cannavi.

Tous lene:

- O sostos tropos

- O lan8asmenos tropos

(ke o kaliteros apolous)

- O 8ikosmou tropos.

An akolou8iste OLA, epanalavano, OLA afta pou periyrafo e8o 8ahete apo ''90 os 100' tis 100' apososto epitihia me klonopisi tou cannavou.


ARHI

To proto pouho na po - ORMONES 8EN IPARHOUNE sti 8ikomou sfaira.

An mono me ormones sou yinounde os tora, kati lan8asmeno kanete. 8en hriazoude ta ormon ka8olou yia to cannavi, yiati ine ftaymeno apo ti fisi na yinete Klon efkola an ta oroi ine sosta. Ta ormonia ine propista ftiaymena yia ales ratses fiton poune 8iskola na risosoune monatous, san to kalaboki bamia ke pola 8endra pou iparhoune.

Atoma pou metahirizoune ormones to kanoune yia na andista8misei ales kakes prahtikes me8o8o klonopisis tous.

ManaFito - Motherplant

E mana prepi nane tou laisto 2-minon e 8(ohto)-v8oma8on prin ine etimi na vyaloume klons pou 8ahoune poli epitihia na risoune.

Kataloyos kalwn meson yia klonopisis

- Lepton amos tou ylikounerou potamon
- Coco-Coir(xeplimenos me ylikonero prin to xrisimopoisi)
- Lepton skouro e kokino homa horis lipasmata ke horis asveti
(microwave apostiromenos - 20lepta full power)
- Lepton skouro e kokino homa horis lipasmata ke horis asveti
me 30% perlite, e 30% Lepton tou ylikounerou amos potamon, e 30% CocoCoir
- Rockwool cube(ohi ta mikrotera - 2.5-3intses Cuvika ine kalitero)
- Compost (nane san afrato homa - pliros aposinte8eimevo - fully decomposed)
- Sketo freskonero me liquid-Nitrogen ke liquid micronutrients.
Alayma ka8e 3 imeres. Otan e rizes inie micres, transplant mes sto meson tous amesos.

Piase ke vyalis apofasi pio meson 8a metahirisis, valeto mes sti ylastra ke potiseto pliros/FULLY prin esi etimos na kopsis to klon apo ti mana. Ke me souvla na souvlisis os to va8os ti tripa mes sto meson pou 8a hosis to clone. Ke olote na afinis nahi tou laisto misi-intsa periohi anihti apo to va8os tou clone poune komenos, os to va8os tou meson. Yia na boroune e rizes na vyoune apokato apo to kopsimo tou klon ke na boroune na prohorisoune kata KATO e kenouryes e rizes, ke ohi mono playios apo to klon.

TRIS IMERES PRIN

Na potisis ti mana/motherplant ka8e imera (yia tris) prin kopsis to klon me pliris/full nero. Yia nahoune yemisi ta klaryia tis manas me zoumi/nero otan kopoun ta klons. Etsi 8ane ke ta klons yemata zoumi otan kopoune ke 8en 8a hriasoude KA8OLOU spraying me nero otan ta ftiaksis.

90 tis 100 apo tis ratses pou iparhouone pianoune e rizes tou klon efkola. E ales 10 tis 100, poune liyo 8iskoles na rizosoune ta klons tous, hriazoude vari potisma ka8e imera apo 7 os 10 imeres prin kopoun ta klons.

Ke tris imeres prin, nahis etimasi boliko nero me misi-8osi liquid Nitrogen fertiliser na metahirisis sto potisma to klons ospou na rizosoune(1-2 v8oma8es) ke misi 8osi apo kalo micronutrient fertiliser mazi me to Nitrogen(macronutrient) ine kalo. San to Maxi-Crop.

E kaliteri 8emokrasia yia ta klons na piasoune ine triyiro 26 va8imous tin imera ke nihta. An pesi e 8emokrasia pio poli apo 18va8imos 8en 8a pasouone e rizestous efkola. E 8rosa ke to krio ta telioni.

To kalitero peri8os fotos yia na piasoune ta clones ine:

Yia ratses poune apo 100%indica-os-10%indica = 18 ores fos tin imera.

E 24ores fos ke 7 oreas nihta - 8ila8i ti koro8emoune ti riza na tis fenete oti e imera ehi 31 ores, ohi 24. Ti kani ke meyaloni pio yligora se ena mina ke akomi ehi ti nihtatis na kimi8i yia na sklirini. Pio liyo apo 6 orea nihta tin imera vlafti to fito. 20 ke 22 oreas fos tin imera ta 8revi pio liyo apo 18 oreas fos tin imera. Afto ine proven me pola piramata pohoune yini se panepistimia me to cannavi. E epistimones vrikane oti na 8refti to cannavi oso poli bori, prepi nahi tou laisto to en tetarto tis imeras tou yia ipno. Pio ligo apo 1/4 tis imeras ipno, ke pola apo ta farmaka pou si8i mesatou to fito otan meyaloni pou to hriasoude, 8en yinoude kala yiati 8en ehi oso nihta/skota8i hriazete na yinoune afta to kala ta farmaca ke enzimes mesa sto zoumi tou.

Yia ratses poune apo 100%sativa-os-90%sativa = 12 ores fos tin imera. Ohi yia to 8repsimo tis rizas, yiati ke yiafta 1/4 tis imerastous skota8i tous ftani nahoune top/kaliteri iyia - ala yia na misome to poli to tentoma/stretch pou kanoune e sativas sto flowering. Ospou an to arhinisoume to flower amesos 8a pari pio liyo kero na teliosi e risa, ketsi to stretch pou 8akane sto veg to aferoume apo to teliomeno ipsos tou.

To kalitero fos pou iparhi na rizosoune ta kenouryia ta klons ine to 6,200 va8imous Kelvin fluorescent tubes. Ta lene daylight tubes ke vyasoune olo-aspro fos me tin i8ia fotici-8emakrasia pou vyasi o ilios mes sto mesimeri - 6,200Kelvin. Valeta oso konda sta tubes sas youstari. Ke to apopano tou klon an ine os 8initses apokato apo to tube ine endaksi. Emena mou aresi 2intses apo kato. Ta tubes prepi nane pio nea apo 3 minon. Ka8e tris mines hriazoude alayma yiati tous pefti poli e 8inami tou fos pou vyazoune.

Me HID fos(400W-1000W), prepi nane ta clones tou laisto 6 po8ia makria apo to volvos. Me ta 1000W ke os 10 po8ia makria ospou na piasoune ine endaxi.

To ilio na ton trosehte an ine mes sto kalokeri ke kei 8inata. An ine etsi, mono ti proto ora to proi ke ti apoyevma poi asikonete ke prin pefti prepi nahoune ton ilio apanotous ke oles tis ales tis ores se kalo iskio, e mes sto spiti se 8rosa an exo kani apo pano apo 30 va8imous tin imera. Ala sas sisto na min metahirisete ton elio an prepi na ta kounate mesa exo ka8e imera yiati to kounima 8en tous kani ka8olou kalo.


Me to meson 8ialeymeno ke potismeno pliris mes sti ylastra, KE e mana pliros potismeni ka8e imera yia tis perasmenes 3 imeres, tora imaste etime na kopsome ta klons.



8ialeyma pou na kopoune ta klons


To klon na tou 8osoume to pio kalitero e pio poli pi8anotita na piasoune e rizestou, prepi nahoume tou laisto 8io(2) nodes mes sto to homa/meson.

Ke ine kalo nahoume ke 8io nodes tou laisto, ke me to tip, apo pano apo to meson/homa.


Ta meyala ta fanleafs apo pano apo to meson ine kalitera na ta vyasis yiati aboloune poli nero apo mesa apo to clone ke to steynonoune pio yliyora.

To klarya apo to apopano tou fitou(tis manas) ine ta pio kalitera yiati ine pio 8revmena apo ta kato - pianoune pio efkola.

Eki pou pefti to kopsimo sto klari ine kalo namaste siyouri oti ine akoma malako/trifero ke 8en ehi sfiksi akoma to kalari aftou. 8ila8i nane akomi liyo eukabtos apano sti kopsa(sto va8os tou clone pou honete mes sto meson/homa.

To kopsimo apo ti mana ine kalo nane ka8aro me xerafi, ke nane komeno me tou lasisto 45 va8imous katifora - ohi plakoutso.

Ola ta fila ke ta mikro klaryia pou vyenoune apou ta nodes pou 8a ho8oune mes sto meson/homa, prepi na kotoune os to kormo tou klon prin bi mes sto meson - KE PRIN POPI O KLON APO TI MANA. Pali ine kalitero me xirafi yia ne kanis ka8ari kopi.

SIMANTIKOS

To kopsimo prepi na yini ENAMESA ta 8io nodes pou pefti e kopsa. ENAMESA ke ohi pio konda sto ine node e sto alo.

PIASE KE YINI E KOPSA TOU KLON APANO STI MANA, PREPI AMESOS NA HO8I MES STO MESON/HOMA YIA NA MI BI FOUSKALA APO AREA MES STO KOPSIMO.

An bi fouskala areas mes sto kormi, to klon 8a svisi. 8en prokete na piasi me oti na tou kanete meta.

An ehete pola klons na kotsete, vaseta amesos mes se nero ospou ine e oratous na ho8oune mes sto meson/homa. Ke e8o, amesos apo to nero mes sto homa. Min perimente oute 8eperolepo.

Tis 8io zoyrafes pouho vali sto apokato post 8ihni pio ka8ara ti enoo me tis kopses ke to 8apsimo mes sto meson/homa.


To mono alo pou 8a sas po ine oti na min ta kounate KA8OLOU ta klons ospou nane etima meta apo 8io v8oma8es.

KOUNIMA STO KLON OPSOU NA PIASI, OSO LIYOS KAN INE, INE SKETOS 8ANATOS.

8en bai nane to kounima apo to herisou pou asikonis ti ylastra, e apo to kounima pou yinete otan ta kanis SPRAY me nero, e apo to kounima otan ta potizis ke to nero pou trehi siya, pefti/htipai tou klon to kormi. Ola aft ine sketo 8anatos yia to klon. Prosohi.

NO SPRAYING APANO STO KLON
NO KOUNIMA APO TIS 8ESITOUS TIS YLASTRES
NO POTISMA APANO STO KORMO TOU NEO TOU KLON

Potisma triyiro apo to kormo ospou na plimirisi mes sto kormo.

POTE MIN AFINETE TO MESON/HOMA NA STEYNOSI oute keapo pano. Ospou na pisoune e rizes tou klon to meson nane olote vreymeno.

Pos xero oti proto-piasane e rizes??

Otan e akraies ákres (extreme tips) sta 8ahtila tou filou fenounde san kitrino-kaimena - yellowing blade tips on leafs. Otan proto yini afto pai na pi oti e protes rizes piasne, ala 8en pai na pi oti ine etimo to klon yia transplant. Hriazete ali mia v8oma8a (ke) nane etimo to klon meta apo afto.

 

Hronia pola nahoume e8o.

Adiosas fili.



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Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 28 February 2005 at 12:21

Ekato tes ekato germination rate me sporyia tou Kannave

 

 

Se olamou ta hronia pou milao me kosmo yia to Kannave, mia erotise pou olote zitane ine pos na kanoune germinate ta sporyia tous me kale epitihia.  Iparhoune pola me8e8os, ala to me8e8o pou eho vre pou mas 8ine te pio pole epitihia ine etoute pou 8a eksiyiso tora.

 

An ta kanate OLA afta pou 8a sas eksiyiso tora, hores na kanete SKIP kanena STEP, 8ahate ekato tes ekato epitihia me ta spryia pou 8a fitepste an 8perasoune kala apo to proto simantikos tsekarisma (*) sten arhe tes me8o8os.

 

As arhinimouse fili.

 

To proto simantiko prama na 8imomaste opotan pame na piasoume spoyia me to herimas, ine nane ta heryiamas kataka8ara.  E8ika apo la8yia, farmaka, lipos, vromikes scones ke an kapnisoume tsiyara.  O kannaves 8en andehe te nicotini ka8alou.  Oute an mini liyi apano sto sporo, ke oute an to futo ine 10 po8yia ipsos.  Ta arostene efkola ke ta kane pole stress.

 

Prepe namaste suyoure ote ta sporyia ehoune vyi apo te manatous kehoune stynosi to tsoule tous yia tou laisto 4 v8oma8es, yiarte to tsoule 8en steynone kala ospou na pesoune/vyoune apo te mana, oso ka as fenete to tsoule sfhito ke skouro otan ine akoma apono ste mana.  Alios 8en prokete na aniksoune ke as ine iperoha.  Afto yinete fisika yia na me aniksoune ekso ste fisi, pole yliyora meta apo otan pesoune ste yes apo te mana pou ta eplase, ke arhinisoune mes sto homino pou bore na svisoune apo to pole krio e apo ten pole iyrasia.

 

 

1.      8ialeyoume mono ta sporyia me kalo hroma sto tsoulitous.  Mono ta skoura, ohe ta aspra.  Ke ote sporyia  pou 8en ehoune kale simetria e fenoude sima8evmena apo te mana.  Ke titahtea kala ria raizmata sto tsoufle yia na me da metahiriste keafta.  Poles fores to raizma ine toso a8inato pou 8en fente me to mate, ala o sporos ehe hase pole varos yiate ehe steynosi mesa o karpos tou.  Ke 8en voulase pote an to valete mesa se nero na fouskose opos 8a sas ekseyiso meta.

 

Tora, otan ta 8ilaksete, telihteta kala mesa se plastico e plastico-sakoulake me ziplock ke valteta ta sporyia mesa se kanena vaso pou 8en afini aera mesatou, ke valteta mes ste freiza sas, ohe mes ste katapsiksi, yia mia imera tou laisto na payosoune, ala ohe na katapsih8oune.

 

Meta apo tou laisto MIA imera mes ste friza, vyalteta ekso apo te freza ke apo to tiliyma pohane, ke asteta ekso yia mia ora tou laisto na seta8oune mes sto 8omatio.  Afto kane activate mes sto sporo ena fisiko farmoko pouhene masatous, pou ta etimase yia na aniksoune pio kalitera para na men ihane fae to krio pren prohoresoume pio pera,  ta kanoume na esta8oune pos ir8e e anikse mata apo to krio himona pou esade pren(mes ste freza).  Yia na 8oulepse afto kalitera, ine pio asfalos na dahame ta sporyia mes ste friza yia pio pole kero apo mia imera mono.  V8oma8es, mines, hrono ke, ine pio kalitero yia na niose o karpos ote epitelos ir8e e anikse.

 

1.      Meta apo mia ora os imera-ke, pou vikane apo te freza, ke pren ta valoume na fouske o tsouflitous mesa se iyro, hriasete na yrdsounisoume liyoulake to apekso tou tsoufle, yia na bore na pyi to iyro to tsoufle pio efkola.  To kanoume afto me mikro komate yaloharto, 100grade/takses ine kalo.  To arpasoume to sporo me ta 8io 8aftilamas, ke san na prospo8oume na anapsoume spirto, to malako-pername apono sto yaloharto MIA FORA mono.  8en 8eloume ka na tou kanoume pripa mes sto tsoufle, mono na do yradsounisoume.

 

2.                  Tora miso yemisoume ena kataka8aro potire me iyro.  To nero pou metahirisoume ine simantikos.  8alehte ena apo etouta:

 

 

Nero tou spitou pouhe vraste ke ehe kriose, E fisiko Springwater, E vrehonero ka8aro, E nero ayorasmeno tes bottilias(ala na me ehe alate mesatou opos ehoune pola SodaWaters, analato sodawater ine ke pio kalo apo to sketo nero),  E ka8aro potamoNero.

 

Me opio 8ialehte apopano, tou kane pole kalo na dou vales miso 8ose apo kalo liquid fertilizer mesatou pouhe boliko Nitrogen ke metria-8ose K mase.  To liquid seaweed, e fish, e blood&bone, mase me liyo Maxicrop mesatou kane mia hara.  Na do ipoloyiste to nero na fenete san kaniniko tsai pou pinoume.  Ohe sa Coca-Cola toso nores.

 

Ke rihte OLA ta sosto-8ialeymena sporyia mesa sto etimasmeno iyro, ka valte to potire se meros pouhe apo 25-30 va8imous 8emokrasia, se skota8e.  An 8eleto, to tiliyete to potire me kate pou na stamatae to fos na pernai mesatou.  To skota8e hriseta yia na kane to sporo na do fenete ote ine apokato ste yes, homeno mes sto homa pou kane skota8e.

 

Ke afesteta tora na fouskosoune yia 24oreas.  Ohi pio liyo, ke ohe pio pole apo 30hores.  Meta apo 10-14 ores, kanete stir to iyro mes sto potire me ta sporyia, ke pale asteto.  Prosohe na me sas kolisoune sporyia apano sto koutalisas otan to kanete afto yia na minoune OLA ta sporyia mes sto iyro.

 

(*)      Meta apo 24oreas, osa sporyia ehoune voulakse mes sto va8os tou nerou ine kala (viable).  Osa minoune apano sto nero (kanoune akome float ), 8en ene kala (non-viable).  Pole simantikos.

 

 

3.                   

Sperno ta viosimo sporyia

 

Meson  Homa

 

Me tes ylastres etimes me to homatous kiolas pliros vreymenes, kanoume tripa apano sto homa nane apo ½" os 3/4" to pio pole.  Ohi pio pole, ke oute pio kseva8o.  Pren valoume to sporo ste 8esetou, me souvlaki pou bore na ftase os to va8os tes ylastras, to honoume amesos triyiro ste periohe pou 8a valoume to sporo na katse.  Ke tes honoume isa kato, ke liyo playos ospou na htipisoume to diho tes ylastras sto va8os tou dihou pou enonete me te vase tes ylastras mes ste yonia.  Afta ta mikro kanalia pou souvlisoume 8a metahiristoune na afisoune to tap-root tou keanikou futo ta perase to homa os to va8os me poli liyi adistase apo to homa.  Ospou 8a anaptikti pio yliyora to neo futo.  E nea mono-riza (tap-root) as me skase amesos apo se malako kanale, ospou na prohorisi liyo 8a do vre an tes ekanante tes souvles konda sto meros/periohi pou 8apsame to sporo.  Kanete bolikes souvles yia nasaste mesa.

 

Yiafto prepe nane to homa etimopotismeno pren valoume to sporo mesa.  Yia na me voulosoune afta ta kanalia me potisma ospou nahe perase e riza mesa se ena.

 

Me ka8ara heryia, vyasoume ta sporyia opo to potiri ena ena, ke me te miti tou sporyou KATA PANO, OHI KATA KATO, to vasoume ste 8esetou, ke malaka malaka randizoume to homa na da skeasoume os to isos tou homa.  ALA prosohe na me kouni8e o sporos apo te 8esitou.

 

Valete tora tes ylastres se meros 8ermotito apo 25C os 30C.  Ke na ehe to meros kalo fos, ohe 8inato ke oute malako.  Ekso ste liyo iskio, e mesa tou laisto 3 po8yia makria apo HID laba e MH e HPS.  To MH 8en kane proago pola ke makria klarya.  Ospou monotou ine kalitero an 8a da meyalosete ta futa SOG enades Scrog.  Yia Scrog HPS mono, e HPS ke MH mase apo ten arhe.

 

Simantikos

Piase ke valete tes etimes ylastres tora sto plai e ste 8esitous, ME POTISETE TE YLASTRA KA8OLOU ospou na vouyoune ta futa ekso apo to homa ke aniksoune ta prota strogila filatous pou leyoude cotyldons sta Aglika.  Kias ehe steynosi to apopanou tou homatos.  8en pirase an e 8emokrsia ine apo kato apo 30C.  An ine pio pole zeste apo 30C, hriasete mono to apopano tou homa liyo nero otan ehe steynosi yia mia imera.  Ala ohe pole nero na va8ose mes sto homa, isa arketo na vreske tin apopano MISI indsa tou homatos ke ohe pio kato.  Afto an yini, mono mia fora tetio potisma hreasete se sestes apo pano apo 30C, KE OHI PIO POLE.  Ka8olou ospou na vyoune ta futa.  An da potisete pren vyoune ta futa apo to homa, e rizatous 8a mini konde ke ohe prohoromene sten anaptike ke oute sto makros.  Prosohe afto.

 

Ke me te miti tou sporyou kata pano otan to kanete sow, e riza mes ste protes imeres yinete 8io fores pio makria para me te miti kata kato.  Yiate tou 8ini tou sporou pio pole agkyrobolio/ormos.  Yiate opos prohore kata katou meta apo to 1800 stripsimo poukane otan protokatalave ote pai anapo8o pros stapano, e 8iname apo to kato-spro3imo pou patae e riza, anakolou8e te riza pros ta pano, ke strive pros ta kato ospou na ftase e 8iname sto telos tou bisinou tou sporyou KE TO HONE TO SPORO PIO MESA sto homa pros ta kato, ke tou 8ini tou sporou pole agkyrobolio/ormos/anchorage, yia na bore na ho8i e riza pio va8ia para na etane e mitites pros sto kato ke asikose olo to sporo ekso apo to homa pole pio pren me pole pio kande riza.;)  Yiate me te miti pros ta kato, pai ke pai, ke otan ftase to miso macros, 8en ehe alo agkyrobolio/ormos, ke stamatai na makrene ke vyene apo to homa, kanoune sprout, prematurely.  Ke to futo 8en ine oso 8inato 8atane me riza 8io fores pio makre pren asiko8e apo to homa.  Simple Mechanics no guess work.

 

Meta apo fto, potisma mono otan e ylastra hane to varos stes apo e3atmizimai.  E 8iafora me to voras ine meyale, apo 2 os 4 fores pio vare me to potisma/nero-tou.

 

 

Meson  -  Rockwool

 

Me to kyvo vremenon me ta i8yia iyra pou vasoume mesa sto potiri prin riksoume mesa ta sporyia na fouskosoune, ke miso stragismeno to kyvo, kanoume mia tripa 5mm-6mm 8iametro os te mese tou rockwool, ke vasoume to sporo playios mes ste tripa.

 

Meta to vasoume opos vasoume tes ylsatres otan 8avoume to sporo mes sto homa, ke ta afinoume.  Pale, potisma mono otan hasoune ta kyvo to varos tous.  8en hriasete na da plimerisete me nero, mono nahoune ten iyrasiatous mesa sto kyvo, ohe pros sta ekso.  Yiate 8ahoune iyro ke apokatou pou tous ftane na 8iatiroude monatous me iyrasia.

 

 20'Thai



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: daglas
Date Posted: 03 March 2005 at 19:40

Geia sas patriotes,xreiazome epigontos tin boi8eia sas,einai i proti fora poy fitevo kai simera moy dimioyrgi8ike ena megalo problima.Exo 5 fyta shiva shanti,ta eixa kato apo 2 lampes f8oriou 16ores fos kai 8 skotadi gia peripoy ena mina kai pigenan sxetika kala,molis ef8asan sta 20peripoy ekatosta kai ebgalan peripoy5-6 seires apo fyla ta ebala kato apo tin lampa agrophilips sta 400wat poy kanei kai gia flowering kai gia vegating grow se apostasi 60ekatosta apo tin lampa,to prwi omos poy ksipnisa polla fyla eixan arxisei na kitrinizoyn eno alla fylla mayrisan kai kremasan teleios,ena fyto malista o kormos toy ligise kai i korifi akoympise sto xoma.Mporo na kano kati oste na ta epanafero, toylaxiston ayta poy den arpaksan poly?mporei na moy pei kapoios ti akribos ftaiei giayto to skiniko?Exo ksenerosei teleios.PLEASE HELP ME

EYXARISTO POLY KAI KALES APOKRIES PADIA 



Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 11 March 2005 at 14:47

Daglas,

Ena apo to 8io ehoune yine, e ke ta 8io ehoune yine file.

1.

E 8emokrasia mes sto grow-area/grow-room bore nane pole.  Yiafto liyisane ke steynosane ta fyla.  Sou apadao arya omos, siynomi.  Maximum 25C va8imous nahe mes sto grow room sou.  Pio pole 8EN ine kalo yia ta futa mas. 

 

Hrisete freskos aeras ne fisai apano sta futo ole tin ora poune to HPS anavmeno.  Fresko apo ekso, ke ale anemisera me solina na petai to zesto/metahirismeno aera mes sto grow-room EKSO.  Prepe na do kanoume to futo na dou fenete ote se ekso, ohe mesa.  Ke ekso o aeras ine OLOTE freskos.  To i8yo prepe na yini ke mesa.

 

2.

AN ehis kalo fresko aera ke fisai - trava ta futa pio kato apo 60cm.  Ke 1m ine endaksi yia mia v8oma8a ospou na sini8isi to futo to kenouryo 8inato fos tou HPS.  Apotoma, poles ratses 8en do adehoune konda apo ten arhe.  Ohe ote 60cm ine konda, ala an to futo ehe zisi oli tou te zoi me mono fluro, ta filla tou ine trifera - ke keyoude efkola.  8eloune siya strosimo yia 5-7imeres pren to sini8isoune ke meta ta vases ke os 30cm apokato apto fos an 8es.

 

Piase ke kaoune ta fila apo 8inates ahtines - 8en sinerhoude me tipota.  Mono ta kenouryia pou 8a vyoune 8ane kala.  Os tora, prepe na souhoune strose ta kenouryia, ke as min davales pio pera apo 60cm apo to fos.  Pesemou an afto pou leo ine sosto.

 

Ke pesemas pos pane tora.  8a tsekaro piso na 8o te 8a pes ka8e imera ospou na 8o tin apandisi sou - ke 8a sou po te na kanes an hriasoude voi8ia

 

Nase kala patri8a.



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Posted By: Athens
Date Posted: 12 March 2005 at 12:54

fandasma

mia xara file kai edo einai file

foto vazoume edo ?

sto sensi seeds htan prin 3-4 xronia elinas o idioktitis



Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 12 March 2005 at 13:20

Yiasou re file,

 

Kalosorises.

 

Vasis pics e8o mate, ala ine liyo 8iskola tora.  Toho pe sto atomo poune in charge of that, ke perimeno apandisi.  To oreo ine ote ehoune me8o8os pou enandes na kanes upload to pic sou, yrafes to url pou ipari alou, ke to 8ihni e8o apo ke.  8ila8e an 8es, kanis copy to url apoto OG, ke to kanes paste mesa 8o - ke to 8ihni apo eki.  Ospou 8en hriasete na to kanes upload pale e8o sto gallery sou.  Kalo systima afto, ala perimeno apandisi apto katalilo atomo pou ta kane admister ola afto me to programa e8o. 

 

Se liyo 8a me apadisi ke 8a sou po.  Perna keapo 8o re file, ine kalo forum me kalo kosmo.  Ke o Krytonite ekane join eprohtes.LOLOLOL  Tora eyo 8a don kano Moderate.LOL  Etimasou.LOLOLOL

 

Mono na me 8o malakies san des ales pouhame me tous mi bo.  E8o no one has subscribers privelidges file.

 

8a da poume re magga.



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 12 March 2005 at 13:55

Ora yia asteo fili

 

O Vasilas, to prasino Fanare ke o Mitsos...


Mia fora ke ena gero...

...souse enas vlahos pou leyotane Mitsos. E8ele mia emera keaftos na 'yini an8ropos pou ton sevosade ole sto horyo' -  ke as men ihe vyale to yimnasio.

Sto spitakitou ka8otane o foukaras ke 8ouleve ta horafia tou mera meta ptin imera 'mafte' te skepse olote sto mialtou.

Mia nhta poutane ste taverna pren klise, trehe mesa mia keria apoto horyo fonasodas, "voi8ya voi8ya!!!!". Tarahtike o Mitsos ke petayete, "Te eyene kiria mou??". "E yefira me tes 8ia8romes tou trenou EPESE KATO ke se 10 lepta erhete to treno me to Vasila ke te Vasilisa!!! Te na kanoume???!!!!" tou fonase tou Mitsou.

O Mitso amesos trehe spiti na vre kate, pou mipos ton vou8ese na stanatese to treno prin pese kato apto apotomo vraho ke skoto8e o Vasilas me te Vasilisa. Ke amesos arpaze to paleo Prasino Fanare ke trehe yia to vraho. Ftane sto vraho, ke sten apostase evlepe to treno pou erhotane. Amesos anapse to fanaritou ke to talavteu8nke pera fo8o na do 8e o o8iyos tou trenou.

Topase to mate tou o8iyou ke amesos patae varyia frene, ke isos pou to stamatese to treno prin pese kato.

Amesos vyenoune e somatofilakes tou vasila ke e8ane te eyine ke pos to ylitoasane. Pane ke to lene sto Vasila ke ste Vasilisa, ke tous ipane na feroune to an8ropo me to fanare mesa sto treno na done fharestesoune prosopikos.

"Yiafto pouekanas Mitso, sou hrostame te zoe mas." Tou lea e Vasilisa. "Pesemou te 8es, ke 8a sou 8oso OTE epe8imes."

O Mitsos skefteke, ke skefteke, ke skefteke. Peteyete meta ke tes lei tes Vasilisas, "Vasilisamou, an yinete, sas parakalo, 8elo naho ptihio panepistimou yia Yiatros."

Te na kane e Vasilisa, anagasteke na dou to 8ose.

Meta apo 2 v8oma8es, aniyi te klinike tou sto spitiou ke vase anaforyia soles tes fimeri8es yia na8re o kosmos na yiatrefte sto spiti tou pou kremotane to ptihio pou tou8ose e Vasilisa.

Benei mia hondre yineka na don 8e yia 8iorrea. "Bores na me voi8eses Yiatre?" ton rotae to Mitso. "Aneva sto krevate Kirea mou, me te gilia kato se parakalo." tes ipe o Mitsos. Anevene e Madam, ke perimene.

O Mitsos AMESOS pai sena doulapa ke vyaze pale to Prasino Fanare ke to anave. To pae apopano aptes Kireas to bisino, ke arhinae na do talavteu8nke pera fo8o. Pera fo8o, pera fo8o - ke na don ketia e Kiria me ena mate pou o 8eos na vale herei.

Streve ke tou lei, "Yiatre, te 8a mou kane afto??? Pos 8a mou stamatese te 8iorrea???"

Streve o Mitsos ke tes lei, "Kiriamou, afto to Fanare pou vlepes, stamatese Olokliro treno me to Vasila ke te Vasilisa tes Ella8os mesa - ke sou fenete oute 8en 8a stamatese to GOLOSOU??"



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: Elephunk
Date Posted: 12 March 2005 at 18:49

kalhspera guys, :)

Polu xairomai pou vrikame thn hremia mas...

Ante kai na paei oso kalutera ginetai to forum..

20'thai: thnx file ...egw to suneidhtopoihsa oso mporousa pio psyxraima...h mhtera mou omws to exei parei polu varia...elpizw na to xeperasei oso to dunaton pio grhgora..



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Posted By: Elephunk
Date Posted: 12 March 2005 at 19:01
gia na kanw ena check to avatar

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Aaaah, Jaaaaaa das is fantastischen!!!


Posted By: Elephunk
Date Posted: 12 March 2005 at 19:10

den kanei upload avatars?



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Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 13 March 2005 at 04:29

Kalosorises Elephunk.

 

File, 8ine tes miterasou kourayo, ke hores na to katalavene, kanete e leyetes 8oules na sou kane ke na piyene voltes - yia na vyasis to mialotis apo fto to zitima.  Just do all you can to keep her mind off it file, and comfort her - but not too much.  That can work adversly in this situation, if you know what I mean.  8a des perasi file, ohe ote 8a do xehasi, ala opos olimas me tetio zitima, we become use to the reality of it.  Kourayo, ipostiriksi, ke pramata ne tes vyasi to skepsi afte apto mialo tes file.  The best medicine of all.

 

Yia AVITARS file, piyene mesa sto PROFILE sou, and half way down - you'll see the Avitar option.  E me url to kanes upload, e apo te PC sou to kanes upload.  You can upload your own avitar there file.

 

Opos ipame file, ke nasaste olisas kala.

 

Ayos o 8eos file.



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: Elephunk
Date Posted: 13 March 2005 at 07:13

kalhmera guys.

thnx fantasma gia tis sumbvoules sou. Ennoeite oti tha thn prosexw :) Mana einai mono MIA!

To avatar file prospathw na to kanw upload ap to PC...mou leei oti to kanei, alla otan pataw to preview gia na to dw- den deixnei tipota...

Den xerw ti ftaei...telos pantwn..tha voleutw m'auto



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Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 13 March 2005 at 08:51

Yiasou pale file,

 

Mipos ine too big to jpg file?  Ala ke kati alo bori na ftei yiate yia 2 imeres tora ke eyo eho mikro provlimata pou pezovyeno apto ena thread mes sto alo mesa 8o.  Yia perimene liyes imeres ke xanakane to try pale mipos ka8arisi to provlima.

Nase kala.



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: daglas
Date Posted: 14 March 2005 at 12:54

na eisai kala 20 thai.

exeis dikio,osa eixane arpaksei apto fos ksera8ikan telios,eno ta kainouria gbainoyn kanonika xoris problima,apla aptin korifi megalonoun poli arga epidi ekei emfanistike to kapsimo alla arxizei kai fountonei apo kato apton kormo san 8amnos poli kala me orea fylla, telika eftege o eksaerismos,ekana kalo systima me solines kai pao kala,

thanks thai 



Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 15 March 2005 at 08:09

Etsi mpravo daglas,

 

Me fovase na dous 8ines fresko aera apekso e apo alo 8omatio - fresko 8ila8e.  Ke nahes ke mia mikre ane8stera pou kane oscillate kondatous na petai to fresko aera aponotous, ke as ine 8inata.  Oso 8inata perni me oscillating fan mono na mi pesoune kato ta kormia apo te 8iname.  An 8en pesoune kato - me fovase ka8olou. Ekso kseris poso fisai o aeras.  Ke mesa me teia tahitita tous kanes kalo.  They love it ke sfiges to korme - to kanes pio 8inato ohe pio pahe.  To pahos mene i8yo, mono ta fibres mes sto korme yinoude pio 8inata ke 8en pefte me pio pole varos an 8en ihes aera ka8olou e 8inato.

 

Ehoume milisi se alo meros ese ke yo file??  Se alo forum?  Mou 8imisis kapione, ala 8en xero pion.

 

Nase kala.



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: daglas
Date Posted: 15 March 2005 at 14:42

geia sas patriotes kai kali sarakosti

20thai thanks for the tips, isos exoume milisei se kapoio allo forum,den 8imame.

8elo na se rotiso kati akoma,sorry alla eimai arxarios.

1.pou kai pou toys dino trofi npk 20-20-20, einai kala i mipos na tous doso tipoata allo?

2.pira ti lampa apo to sensi taxidromikos alla den pira ballast giati itane akribos gyro sta 200 eyro,kai ekana ena diko mou xiropoiito me lamarina kai ksilo,poso rolo paizei to ballast ? ekana malakia pou den pira ton original?

na doume pos 8a ti bgaloume tora me ti nisteia,mpafos me tarama kai elies den lei,alli fasi ta soyblakia kai oi pastes  

8a ta poume magges,gia xara



Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 15 March 2005 at 15:19

Yiasou daglas,

 

Mipos sto MH seho sinadisi e8o ke liya hronia?  I'm not sure.  Ala miasis mianou filou apo tin a8ina pouha sinadisi eki ke touha stili sporyia.  Anyway...

 

To 202020 ine atimo fertiliser combination file.  Ine apo ta pole liya pou kanoune ke yia veg, ke yia flower.  To mono pou sou sisto na dou vasis masi me ti FULL 8ositou ine MISI 8osi MaxiCrop.  Ola mase.

 

Me te laba file - 8en ekanes malakia.  To simatiko/critiko prama me ta fota ine e laba, ohe to running gear.  Ala 8en enwo ote opio paleo ballast vres na metahirisis.  Vres opio kalo/kenouryio hps running gear poulana afto yia laba apo 200 os 400W.  An vres se kali timi 400W running gear, kani.  Yiate e electroniki-adistasi tes labas pesi se poso electrismo 8a traviksi apo to ballast.  An to ballast ine liyo pio meyalo apo te labasou, 8ouleve endaksi akomi.   Ke to alo pou pese liyo ine to reflector yia te labasou.  matahirise kalo ala micro reflector, ohe meyalo.  Meyalonoune kalitera ta futa mas me mikro reflector yiafto ta 8eria pou metahirisane e8o ke hronia ta stamatisane.

 

Ke filakse mou kanena-tesera souvlakia e.



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: Elephunk
Date Posted: 18 March 2005 at 15:29

paidia shmera htan ola teleia...:)

Ta seedlings pane para polu kala, kai to megalo pou psiloekapsa exei sunelthei plhrws...tou ekana ena training kai exw rixei olo to fws panw stous papades...telika einai polu kalh fash. Ta epomena h FIM h scrog.

Ean kaw FIM ta kalimist ti upsos tha parei to dentro?...



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Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 07:37

Yiasou file,

 

To i8yio ipsos pou 8aperne/8aftane me normal clipping.  To FIM yia mena ine to i8yio prama me kanoniko mainstem clipping.  E moni 8iafora ine ote to main shoot pou miso-kovete, meta apo to clipping sine8rete ke xanarhinisi na meyalone, ala ta plaina meyala klaryia to pernana ospou na siner8i, ke olote meta mene mikroutsiko brosta sta plaina klaryia pou to kanoune overtake ke yinoude ta kenouryia dominant klaryia. Ke afto travia 8inami apo ta kenouryia plaina klaryia anyway...not good.  Yiate ta fanleaves apo ta kenouryia plaina dominant klaryia to kanoune overtake/outgrow ke to vasoune se iskio ospou yinete stunned to growth tou.  They shade the clipped mainshoot after they overtake it while it tries to recouperate from the semi-clipping it hasgone through.  IOW file, to me, FIM is no different to a plain clipping...and I know what they say about it, but I do not agree.  It's the same thing if clipped properly at the right time.  Ta i8yia main klaryia meyalonoune ke me ta 8io clippings - fim or normal.

File, sto og eparhoune kala pramata ke 8iories yiata votanikamas, but sorry to say that FIM is not one of them.  Me kanoniko cla8oma tou mainshoot ste katalili ora, mouhoune vyale apo 2 os 10 dominant klaryia - strain dependant...pehte ste ratsa.  8ila8i ke 2, ke 4, ke 8 ke os 10 mainklaryia mouhoune vyi me normal/kanoniko clipping...ka8aro clipping ohe miso-en-tetarto clipping tou main shoot/stem.

 

Kaneto opos 8es to clipping ke onomaseto Elephunk Clip.lolol  Afou o FIM to onomase meta apoto onomatou, yiate ohe ke se?  Ke 8a dous leme olous oti to 8ikosou to clipping ine pole pio kalitero apo tou FIM.

 

Nase kala file, ke kaneto clipping opos 8es...it's all the same.  Mono me to kanis to clip pole arya e psila sto futo.  Perimene ospou na proto arhinisi t korme na sfigi kato sto homa, ke otan vyale to futo to 8th node tou, pata tou klipping enamisi sto trito ke tetarto node - ke 8a sou vyale bolika side branches for training.  Ala yia scrog file, o klon ine liyo kaliteros, ohe pole, ala ke me ka8olou klipping yinete to scrog an 8es.  Mono pou tou hriasete pio pole training, as you have to relocate the mainstem further down the screen every time it grows more.

 

Ke me ta ala futa sou file...kseris tora pote arhinane na keyoude me te 8ose pou tous evales.  Just keep it in mind in future and no more overdose problems.  Siya siya 8a meyalones futa pou 8a da herese file, mono liyo ipomone hriasete.

 

Yiasou phunky.



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: Elephunk
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 13:09

Thnx 20`Thai...

tha to psaxw kalutera to thema..

mia allh erwthsh: vlepw se oti merika seedlings exoun OLO prasino xrwma se ola tous ta kladia kai alla exoun kafe xrwma...auto einai mallon gonidiako shmadi tou futou. Xerete ti shmainei?

 



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Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 14:04

Yia Elefile,

 

Afto pefti ke se gonidiako shmadi tou futou, ke ales dores pefte se liyo magnesium e se liyo fosoforo lipsimo tou homatou.  Yiafto olote leo file ote to, Nitrogen rich fert pou tous rihnoume sten arhi, ine kalo nahe ke miso 8ose K amse me to N.  Pola liquid ferts pou poulane yia veg ehoune hamilo K ke P ke pole N.  Ala yia na sfigi to korme yliyora(ospou na me pesi olo - kani collapse konda sto ipsos tou homatos), 8ila8i, na me pa8ene to neo-futo afto pou leme Damping-Off e Damp-Off, ine olote kala namaste siyouri oti na me do lipi tou futo:

 

1. EspomSalts - pouhe magnisum ke ala critika alatia pou tou hriasete noris.

 

2. Kale 8ose, ala ohe pole, K mase me to Nitrogen sto vegging apo tin arhi.

 

Yiate to kaffe hroma sto kormi to neo(1-2v8oma8on) 8en ine kalo file.  Kokino e Purple e protokale, ine pio liyo kritiko para kaffe hroma.  Yiate to purple, e to kokino, e portokali, pai na pe ote, e ene Genetical (in a few strains, ala ohe poles). E pai na pe (and this is the case more often - tes pio pole ratses), pae na pe pale ote tou lipi liyo Magnesium  - ke to EspomSalts ehe boliko Mg ke Sulphur.

 

Ospou ama 8en imaste siyouri an pefti ste ratsa, kalitera na dou 8osoume ta katalila pramata pou fenete ote tou lipoune yia na me pa8e to futo to Damping-Off ke to hasoume yliyora.  Piase ke pesi olo kato, 8en siner8ete meta me tipota - svi. 

 

To alo prama file ine ote ksero kala ote kapote kapote, to KaliMist vyase kokinoPurple stem sta seedlings tou alaYenika.  Ala kafe - no good file.

 

Se sisto na dous vales amesos to Magnesium ke ta kritika votanikaAlatia pou tous lipone.

 

Ayorase apo supermarket e apo farmakopio, ena paketaki pure Epsom Salts.  To poulane pamftino yiato to metahisizoune yia banio pole se olo to kosmo.  Ke vyale liyo apo to flower-fertiliser pouhis.  Ke etimase etouto:

 

Se 10L kataka8aro nero, riske mesetou MIA full 8ose Vegging fert, KE miso 8osi flowering fertiliser(yia to extra K), KE 2 full koutales tou trapesou (dinner-spoons) ka8aro EpsomSalts - OLA MASE se 10L nero.   Ke an ehes e bores na vres, vale mase ke misi 8ose Maxicrop mesa mase me ola tala.  Ke potiseta.  Se mia v8oma8a 8a 8es te 8iafora amesos.  Ola prosohe me to EpsomSalts pou ayorases.  Sometimes to poulane me ala mirou8ika mesatou.  NO GOOD.  Mono 100% Espom salts nane.  Hores tipo talo.  8iavase to paketo kala/carefully yia ta listed ingredients poyhe mesa pren to plirosis.

 

Meta apo 4-8 potises pou 8a dous siner8i to prasino hroma sto korme, vase mono to vegging fert hores ola tala.  Ala vase Epsom Salts yia to flowering file, yiate to homasou 8a do hriaste totenes afou to lipi liyo tora.  Mase me te full 8osi Flowering-fert, vase MIA meyale koutalia Epsom se ka8e 8eftero potisma os sto harvest.

 

File...8en pistevo na metahirises metahirismeno homa mafta?  Yiate an itane already metahirisimeno to homa, it is no wonder this is happening.  Proseheto afto file.  An prepe na metahirisis to homasou yia 2-3 grows, sten arehi se ka8e grow vaasetou mesa Limestone ke Blood&Bone yia na tou xana vales to Mg, Sulphur ke ala alatia pou tou lipi me ta previous grows.  Meta 8en 8a dou lipoune afta pou sou lipoune tora.

 

Otan pa8ene afto pou souyine tora me ta futa mas, kapote siner8oude monatous.  ala kalitera nase mesa - valeta afta mesa sto homa monosou me to potisma pou soupa pren.  Kapia homata tahoune afta pou tous lipi, ala ine liyo locked-up mes sto homa ke 8en ta apoli amesos na dahe etima to futo.  Perni liyo gero na da kane etima yia na bore na da fae to futo.  With time, it releases them and makes them available to the plant...but sometime it doesn't, or by the time it does, it is too late. 

 

Opoa leme sta aglika - better safe than sorry.  Valeta, ke nahis meta to kefalisou isiho file.

 

Adio file.



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: Elephunk
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 15:18

ela mate,

Ta kalimist seedlings pou exw vgalei exoun ena skouro xrwma sto kormo...ta valw photos aurio na sou deixw..To xwma pou tous edwsa einai kainourgio me 14-16-18 NPK...Pantws ta futa einai ugeiestata autes tis prwtes meres ths zwhs tous.

Den nomizw na einai ap to xwma giati sta 2 ellhnika futa pou megalwsa me to idio xwma..to ena eixe auto to psilokafe xrwma pou sou lew, kai to allo htan mono prasino

(Auto to psilokafe htan panta PIO skouroprasino kai sta fulla ap to allo. Dhladh htan pio skouro sto xrwma tou se ola, enw to prasino eixe ena pio anoixto xrwma sta fulla)

Elpizw me tis photos na deis akrivws ti ennow.

Thnx Fantasmatako

Cheers



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Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 19 March 2005 at 23:06

OK totenes file,

 

To psilokafe xrwma, ke to kafe xrwma, ine 8iaforetiko zitima.  Sto post pou ekanes pren apo to telefteosou moupes ote ine kafe.  Ospou to pera ote olo to pahos tou kormou kafine(browned up through and through - dense brown).  Ala mefto pou les endaksi, mono e petsa tou kormou ine liyo kafe - an to katalava kanonika tora.  Ospou 8en trehe tipota, 8a do hase afto se liyo ke 8a yini prasino.  Ala an itane pihto kafe xrwma, i8ele ti voi8yia pou meletisa pren.  Yiate ke an 8en pa8ene Damp-Off to futo, 8a sou meyalone stunted, ospou na etryo afta pou tou lipane apoto homa.  An 8en dahe to homa mesa, bad-news, ala pola homata me kenouryes ferts mesa hriasoude liyo periohe yia na des spasoune tes ferts ke na kanoune ta katalila nutes etima yia to fito yiato ine locked-up mes sto homa/lipasma/kenouryo-liquid-fert.  Whichever the case maybe.  Yiafto opoto hftiahnoume kenouryo homa me oryanika lipasmata ke asveste mesatous, ene kalo na da afisoume na honepsoune monatous hores futo mesatous, yia ena os 8io mines pren ta metahirisoume.  Ke to i8yio me ta liquid ferts, ine kalo na da etimasoume mes sto nero, ke na do afisoume to nero 1-2imeres ekso yia na honepse to liquid fert pren to kanoume smiksoume/stir pale ke to riksoume/potisoume mes stes ylastres e sto kipo - ke as me metahirisoume farmako pH down.  To pH pefte meafte te 1-2 imeron periohi pou stekoude pren metahiristoune...monotou pefte 8ila8i to pH hores ale voi8yia/additive.  Ke afto to honeve.

 

To Kali file, ine sto ematou.  Ta pio pola vyasoune pou leme sta aglika - Crimson hroma kormia ta seedlings tou.  It varies a little, from Crimson, to red purple, to a dark and bright red.  That's Kali.  8en trehi tipota mefto.

 

Nase kale Ele.



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Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: Elephunk
Date Posted: 20 March 2005 at 13:19

Thnx 20`Thai...

telika mporw na pw oti to xrwma einai skourokokkino :)

Se rwthsa giati ta 2 bagseeds pou exw valei exoun arketes diafores, kai mia ap autes htan kai to xrwma tou kormou.

prospathw na katalavw poio ap ta 2 tha exei to kalutero flavour :)...

Oi diafores pou exw dei mexri twra einai:

to A xekinhse me pente fulla sto prwto node, eixe anoixto prasino xrwma se fulla kai kormo, leptotera fulla, pio psulo, kai ta pistils tou einai aspra.

Sto B xekinhse me 3 fulla sto prwto node, eixe skouro prasino xrwma sta fulla me kalutero streching kai to skouro kokkino sto kormo, Exei ligo pio platua fulla, einai pio konto, kai exei merika kafe pistils...

Otan eida sta kalimist to skourokokkino xrwma upethesa oti to B tha exei koina gonidiaka xaraktiristika. Ara mporei na exei kapoia pososta Sativas mesa tou

Mallon sto kapnisma tha katalavw telika

 

 



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Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 21 March 2005 at 11:05

Ela file,

 

To skourokokino poe les, leyete Crimson sta eglesika.  Eyo leo yanis, esi les yianakis.lolol  8en biraesi file, mono te mitisou 8a sou tsibiso.lolol

 

Flavour, potency, yield, aroma ke ola tala file, mono sto telos fenoude.  Iparhoune para para poles ratses me kokino korme otan ine neo to futo.  Ke purple, ke ala hromata.  8en trehi tipota me to hroma sten arhi.  Mono sto telos ta lei ola to futo, ke ohe pren.

 

Te soupa e8o kena mina yiato bagseed futo pou souvyale 5 8ahtila apo to proto node???  8iliko ke kanone.  Very vigorous futo, 8en soupa?  Ke ote mono 8ilika vyasoune 5 8ahtila sto proto node, yiate ta arsenika 8en bourne nahoune tetio vigour.  8iamse??  I'll send you my bill in a week file - strictly 7days settlement/plirome.lolol    Na vye arsenikos, mono me stressing.  Me no stressing, olote 8iliko vyase 5blades sto proto node.  San da Lowland VietnamBlack, ta DALAT, MeoThai ke ala 8inanta sativas.  Indicas, pole spania na sou vyaloune 5bladed leaves sto proto node.  SEAsian, ke ales 8inates sativas pouhane ke colchine rteatment in recent generations to kanoune apo te pole ten ANAPTIKSE pou tous 8ini to Colchine.  Eana apo ta 8io ehe afto to futosou file.  E colchine/polypoid se proines yenies, e kalo SEAsian bloodline.  Either way, kanone.  Ela file, 8a do vaftisoume, ke 8ame nounos.

Na mas sisi Elephunk.

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted By: Elephunk
Date Posted: 22 March 2005 at 15:50

ela file ...

evala merikes photos ap ta kalimist sto OG. ola pane mia xara...

twra pou eipes gia 5fulla sto prwto node...shmera prosexa se merika kalimists oti xekinane me 5fulla...elpizw na einai ki auta thulika kai vigorous :)

Cheers



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Aaaah, Jaaaaaa das is fantastischen!!!


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 13:08

Ele file,

Piya sto gallery sou file.  8en i8a kanena me 5 8ahtila sto proto node.  8en katalaveno te enois mefto pou les.  Kaneta post mes sto gallery sou e8o yiate afto 8ouleve.  Mono oyan vases pics yia upload mes se post 8en 8ouleve.  Ala nane ta pics 100K bytes maximum.

 

8en adeho alo yia apopepse file.  Apo te 6 to proi os tes 9-10 te nihta ka8e imera tora for a alobg time.  Ime pole kourasmenos file.  Pao na peso.

 

8a se 8o. 



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: Elephunk
Date Posted: 23 March 2005 at 13:55

kalhnyxta mate,

ta 5 fulla ta eida me magnifying glass :)...ean eida swsta tha fanoun pisteuw tis epomenes meres.

Exeis kamia pic me ta dentra sou na dw?

File



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Posted By: Elephunk
Date Posted: 24 March 2005 at 16:18

kalhspera file,

Shmera eida oti 3 ap ta 5 kalimist exoun 5fulla sto 1o node :) elpizw na einai ola thulika :P. File einai 10hmerwn and they have a strong and nice smell of MJ.

Ta bagseeds den nomizw na murisan pote etsi...

Skeftomai na valw kai ena air condition mesa sto growroom..xreiazomai omws kati mikro (smaller than 9000BTU) to opoio na mhn xreiazetai kai ton anemhsthra

Cheers



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Aaaah, Jaaaaaa das is fantastischen!!!


Posted By: kain2512
Date Posted: 26 March 2005 at 15:06

Hairetw sAs!! Teleutaia giname ena toumpano xorto, skunk stin katagogi pou metaferthike exo kai megalwse kalamata!!!! Pira ta sporakia kai ta evala mesa gia closet growing! TA pane mia hara kai twra stous 2 mines peripou Ehoun ftasei to psilotero 65cm me dinato kormo kai exoun 12-13 nodes,Auti ti stigmi vriskontai se 12/12 edo kai kamia vdomada kathws mou emfanisan preflowers prin 2-3 vdomades. Ehoun arhisei na vgainoun arketes trixes alla anisihw giati den ehoun murodia, pote arxizoun na mirizoun skunkila kanonika? Xrisimopoiw mia HPS 400W, Osram Vialox NAV-E. Min ti pathsw san ena filo pou anthise ena ice me fthoriou, evgale arketa louloudia... alla to apotelesma miden! ?Ta kainouria fulla pantws ehoun "xnoudia" panw, kati san krustalakia mikroskopika pou gualizoun.

Eimai se kalo dromo guys??

 



Posted By: daglas
Date Posted: 29 March 2005 at 22:17

geia sa patroiotes,pos eiste?

geia soy thai, malon me mperdeveis me kapoion allo file.kain kai go eimai sayto peripou to stadio,exoyn bgalei trixes kai exoun arxisei na sximatizontai mikra fountakia siga siga,oute emena mirizoun mono otan otan i lampa (hps400w) einai anameni kai exei megali thermokrasia 26-27 arxizoun kai mirizoyn,magges molis apoktisa kinito me foto kai 8a prospa8iso ns balo kamia foto me ta koritsia.ta 3 pou eixa moy bgikan ola 8ylika,kali fasi.to mono problima poy exo einai oti ena apo ta 3 einai mallon elliniko to spori kaiexei ksefigei polly sto ipsos,se ligo den 8a xoraei stin ntoylapa,exo dei se kapoies foto oti mporeis na baleis plegma apo pano apo to fyto kai ayto stamataei na pseolonei kai aplonetetai pano plegma,isxei ayto? kserei kaneis i einai kalytera na to deso stin korifi me spago kai na to trabikso pros ta kato?episis kserei kaneis na moy pei poio einai to katalilo fertilizer gia to flowering se analogies npk, thai to maxcorp poy mou eipes ti einai akribos? 



Posted By: kain2512
Date Posted: 05 April 2005 at 13:34
Daglas Mporeis na valeis plegma se ena ipsos pou thes esi, To futo apo mono tou den tha aplothei alla mporeis na to ekpaideuseis esi na tulixtei girw girw, vgainoun kai kaliteres fountes etsi. Pare to korufaio growtip kai perase to mesa apo mia trupa sto plegma kai otan megalwsei ki allo(pros ta panw) Lugise to kai kanto na perasei apo tin diplani trupa pros ta katw kai meta pali to idio.


Posted By: blazedasheetup
Date Posted: 09 April 2005 at 15:04

geia sas paidia argisa ligo alla sas vrika!

paizei afto to site isws kapioi to kserete, opou mazevei ypografes gia na paei episima stin evrwpaiki enwsi kai na pei nomimopoihste to epitelous... exei tora gyrw stis 11000 ypografes sto xeri mas einai na tis afksisoume

http://action.encod.org/ic3/faces/public/ic3/home/petition - http://action.encod.org/ic3/faces/public/ic3/home/petition beite kai ypografte ligkalaiz!!!

 

kai i erwtisi sto fadasma sxetika me to fainomeno pesmeni pswli... dwse mou ta fwta sou!! :)



Posted By: daglas
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 02:19

GEIA SAS PAIDIA,

THANKS KAIN GIA TO REPLY,THA TO PROSPATHISO,PROS TO PARON EXO DESI TIN KORIFI ME KLOSTI KAI TIN TRABAO PROS TA PLAGIA.

AYTO POY LEI O FILOS BLAZE ME TIS YPOGRAFES EINAI KALI FASI ALLA EINAI LIGO DYSKOLO GIA ATOMA POU ZOYN SE XORES ME AYSTIRI NOMOTHESIA PX ELLADA NA BALOYN TA ALITHINA TOYS STOIXEIA KAI NA YPOGRAPSOYN,PROS TO PARON TOYLAXISTON.EINAI OMOS MIA KALI PROTOBOYLIA KAI ENA MEGALO BIMA POY PREPEI NA TO STIRIKSOYME.

RE SEIS PAIDIA EXO PROBLIMA ME TA SYSTATIKA STA FYTA.XRISIMOPOIOOYSA ena FERTALIZER STO GROWING 20-20-20, OTAN mpika sto flowering xrisimopoioisa ena 5-10-5 meta apo ligo kairo omos moy emfanistike eleipsi sidiroy kai mallon kai nitrogen,meta phra ena alo 4-6-7 me pio poli sidiro kai eida beltiosi alla meta apo liges meres  epidinothikan,mporei na moy kaneis kamia pliroforia i kapoio site poy na exei akribos ti systatika xreiazetai anaolgies ktl? 



Posted By: blazedasheetup
Date Posted: 03 May 2005 at 19:04
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Posted By: blazedasheetup
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 22:51
leitourgei akoma to thread edw? ma pou pigan oloi oi ellines??


Posted By: daglas
Date Posted: 26 July 2005 at 22:34

poy eistai re patriotes?

bgalate ta dedra kai xa8ikate r



Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 29 August 2005 at 13:23

Pou isaste re Lania??

 

Efiya yia 3 mines yia 8oulia ke ha8ikate vlepo.

 

Ela, pios ellinas iparhi??



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Posted By: mx5gr
Date Posted: 09 September 2005 at 19:54
Living somewhere in Greece, I have read many guides on how to.

The only thing missing is some information on products available in this country. That is soil, fertilisers and ballasts/lamps. Instead of going to the garden shop and ask for N-P-K xxxxx analogy, it would be helpful to choose from some standard products.

It is relatively hard to find a quality ballast as well. You can make your own, of course, but a quality like the Philis SGR200 is hard to find. Lamps are easier and cheaper.

Can someone suggest products/brands that has tested for growing & flowering of these beautiful plants?


Posted By: greenfinger420
Date Posted: 26 September 2005 at 15:38

Giazou File,

hmm jes i can understand your problem, i gues you would have to import some thinks yourself (like bulbs for the lamps i would not order them over the internet too fragile) most other hardware you can find in greece or import over the internet  http://sensiseeds.com/ml/shop.asp?MainLev=2 - http://sensiseeds.com/ml/shop.asp?MainLev=2   for example. we sell fertilisers in powder form light to transport just ad water!!!

your carbon filter might also be a problem they are bulky and heavy (there is a new filter out very light and does 2 years, i just bought one to try) and like the bulbs you need to refresh them every year if you grow constandly.but try they must have them in greece for spraypaintshops.

okay goodluck and remember the air systhem is very important in a hot country infvest in a good one with filter.

giaxara,

O Petros

 

 



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Posted By: pablo
Date Posted: 03 October 2005 at 22:54

ela mages eftase o afentis....

etoimazw consept èáíáôïõ...

 

 



Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 14:39

Yiasas pei8yia,

 

mx5gr,

 

Apoti ksero apo alous sten Ella8a ine fovos tromos nayorazis pramata apo growshops eki...ke me ta liya pou iparhoune.  8en iparhoune pola, ala ke ta liya poune, ine dangerous na ayorasis tetia pramata.  Keris...roufiana ke soupa moupes.  O i8yios pou sou ta poulai se pro8ini stous batsous.  Ole e filimou pou menoune ste Patri8a, ke mes sten Athina, ta e ayorasoune olatous me to internet apo ala krate.  Mono na tous les na da stelnoune se sistasi pou 8en iparhi growroom yia asfalia.

Yia odour control kita e8o an 8es mipos sou 8osi kamia kali i8ea:

http://www.overgrow.com/growfaq/1509 - http://www.overgrow.com/growfaq/1509

http://www.overgrow.com/growfaq/1152 - http://www.overgrow.com/growfaq/1152

 

An 8en sou 8oulepsi, e 8en youstaris afta apopanou ke hriases 8inato odour control kane afto pou soupe o Petros...invest in a good commercial srubber.

Ala opos na pas me ta carbon filters ola ine peloria/8eria.  There is another approach you may consider...low odour strains WITH the use of something like 'NilOdour' drops all around the outside of the growroom to kill the low odour that will be there.  Mia ratsa pou sou sisto na 8okimasis poune very low odour me iperoho yield ke poli efkoli na de meyalosis ke ine very potent ine to Original Northern Lights.  Pou meyalone ehe poli liyi mirou8yia ala otan ine etimi yia kapnisma ehi oreo flavour me full body smoke.

Ke yia ferts via mail order 8okimase afta pou soupe o Petros.  Yia na da metahirisi O Petros kati kseri.

Yiasou Pablo...rikse tes spenies sou file.

 

Yiasas.:D

 

 

 



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: pablo
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 18:20

magkes oti thes yparxei stin patrida arkei na psakseis sosta

min ksexnate oti ydroponika fita yparxoun pantoy

arkei na psakseis kala opoios thelei kai exei apories mporo na tou po sto pm



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Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 23:14

Yiasou Pablo,

 

Esi pou menis eki prepi na kseris kalitera.  Alla afta pou ipa mou tapane alla pei8yia pou menoune aftou.  Ke me ksehasoume to zitima timis.  Kala ine na tsekourne tes temes sten Ella8a ke sto internet yiate kate pramata 8ahoune pole 8iafora. 

 

Alla to ena prama pou mou tonisoune ekeine pou mou tahoune pe apo ten Ella8a ine tes asfalias.  Prosohe otan pane na da ayorasoune afta apo ten Ella8a.

 

Yiasou Pablo apo te Kolovia.



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: pablo
Date Posted: 11 November 2005 at 00:57

den yparxei problem edo ola einai ftina mono seeds the apo ekso!!!

kai mhn ksexname ti founta fgazei to mana patrida etsi!!!



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Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 11:01

Ela na yelaste file.

 

Mastouromenos reportas:

 

http://h1.ripway.com/20Thai/reporting_weed.wmv - http://h1.ripway.com/20Thai/reporting_weed.wmv

 



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: fotismitsis63
Date Posted: 22 January 2006 at 23:51
mprabo..............

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Posted By: Peace
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 13:07

geia xara se olous kai prota ap' ola sto filaraki to fantasma.

Happy to see you here mate. Ti drama itan kai ayto me to OG...?

Opos xereis den ekana poly post ekei, alla ayto den simenei oti den diavaza taktika ta strain reports kai to excellent strain guide. We ll miss it.

Fetos leo na dokimaso Juicy fruit x Blueberry sativa kai Apollo 11 (Genious pheno). Kai ta dyo einai apo Motarebel.  

I mana Juicy fruit einai apo Sensi seeds kai to Blueberry male einai BC pheno (bit different than DP's and DJ's)

 

To apollo11 einai C99 x genious pheno x Shiva skunk (F2 an thymame kala).

 

 

eyxomai na einai oloi kala kai safe.

kalos sas vrika

Peace S.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 08:00

Ela PeaceSeeker

 

Pos pai o filos??  Efhome Kala.

 

Texas eyune to OG file.  Na sou po, ke 8a katalavis mafta poukana eki, to perimena.  Especially after the MarcEmery episode.  I posted back then and said it clearly to everyone - "...first it's Emery, next it'll be OG and HeavensStairway, followed by many others in other countries."  Topa sto OG, and I also wrote it at MariHemp.  It is still there written in Marihemp if you have a look.  Itane FOS FANARI ote 8a yini etsi file.  Yiate sou fenete ote o foukaras o RichardC pire prefa PREN spasoune e batsi??  Lucky he did or esle alot more people would have been in the sh*t if he didn't.  Tora opos piyane ta pramata, e moni pou prepi na proseksoune ine ekini pou kanane business me to HStairway ke poulayane sporyia, san to FET, ke ekini pouhane 8osi stosta onomata me to SUBSCRIPTION...ke esade poli.  Ketsi File, tora vyike ste prefa yiate eyo esvina to onomamou ka8e hrono ke to ksanahrinaya.lol  Yiafto sou leo that I could see it coming from long ago, even before MarcHemeroids went down...long before.  The site had TOO much useful and state-of-the-art info pertaining to cannabis.  Sites like that will always be watched by LEOs, ke olote prospa8oune na des stamatisoune.  BEcause then, normal people, like Tom Dick or Harry, can grow better dope than they can, and they then have to share the market with others that they don't want too.LOL  Leyete 'stepping on other's toes', if you know what I mean.  If you give them their cut, then they'll let you do it and protect you till such times as you know too much and they bust you hard and cold.lol  Oh what a lovley game we are in.

 

In the end file...grow your own, ke HEASTOUS alous.  An 8en poulas, 8en se pirasoune.

Ala opos ipes file, we will miss it and all it's nice malakies and malakes.

 

Tora re filaraki ti mou les ote 8es na 8okimasis touto ke tino??  Re!! 8s sou tsibiso te miti re!!lol  Te ipame yia to SWT#3??  Ta sporyia taho etima.  Pure and from the first batch of SWT#3's that Steve released.  You know how it goes file...sistasi and nothing else.  Ola tala I'll take care of.  Ke 8a sou stilo kati ala kanonia pou na dayorasis 8a plirosis US$150 yia 15komatia.  Patamou email, pm, oti 8es...ke pesemou an 8es na sou valo ke yia to filomas to Ksoura.

 

Nase kala re file.

 



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

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Posted By: Peace
Date Posted: 06 March 2006 at 16:23
thats exactly what i thought about OG myself. Cops wanted to bust it because it could make anyone a good grower in two years time. All the info was there.

Alla ya mas tous personal stash growers ayto den einai toso oreo giati xasame ekeino to apithano strain guide kai tosa smoke and grow reports.

den variese ti na kaneis.

Ego 2-3 fyta vazo to xrono alla kai pali me pianei paranoia ores ores. I shouldnt..


File thanks gia to Swt #3 offer. For now den exo safe addie, alla molis vro, that sto steilo me pm.


I vaporised some nice sativa. cured almost two years.

San palio krasi. Olo to aroma to eixe kratisi.





Posted By: pablo
Date Posted: 13 September 2006 at 13:45
ela kalo xeimona se olous tous farmer boy
smoke eye


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Posted By: Psychedelicos
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 19:23
Xeretw olous tous farmers..eimai kainourgios edw se auto to forum kai 8a ei8ela tin  bohthia apo kapion athineo...na mou pei pou mporw na brw lampes high pressure sodium kai loipa...euxaristw              so high


Posted By: antiproduct
Date Posted: 18 January 2007 at 20:55
high  hey ellhnares!!!! poly xarhka pou eida ayto to forum k blepw oti yparxoun k atoma experts sto agaphmeno mas sport high 
high exw 2 loipon apories k tha ektimousa poly thn boitheia sas guys...1) oi pribohtes lampes MH k HPS pou briskontai edw ellada pros polhsh? 2) agorazw mono tis lampes k tis bidwnw kateytheian sto ntoui tou fotistikou sto dwmatio mou h xreiazetai k tpt allo???   ayta apo mena...elpizw na xaireste to kalo xortaraki pou megalwnete...THELW K GWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWhighhighhighhighhighhigh


Posted By: antiproduct
Date Posted: 19 January 2007 at 00:11
high ti leei guys ola kala me ta babies...elpizw...high lew loipon n arxisw k gw na megalwnw kana baby mpas k doume kamia asprh mera...barethika na pinw xomata k albanaries...rwtaw loipon esas tous experts apo poia magazia mporw na agorasw ton katallhlo fwtismo k xwmata k loipasmata...eseis apo pou pswnizete?
 
p.s plz help me ellhnares...thai fainesai diabasmeno paidismoking tha ektimousa thn boitheia sou


Posted By: Donnie Brasco
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 20:54
    gia sou file.ime kenourgios sto forum kai tora anakalipsa oti iparhi kai elliniko.alla den vlepo pia minimata.ti egine?eklise?


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 11:57

Afou mporis na grapsis, pos eklise?

Heretismous apo ti ksenihta patritha... ti zitas?  Mila.

 
 


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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: Donnie Brasco
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 15:27
    gia tin ora den psahno kati sigekrimeno.apla ithela na eho kai kanenan ellina filo me sto forum na antalasoume apopsis.kia ida oti apo ton ianouario exafanistikan oloi.ti egine?egine kati?20thai treli foto.fantastiki.polla filia apo tin patrida


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 19 April 2007 at 12:23
Ela Niono,
 
Endaksi totenes... na kseris kala omos oti se OLA ta marijuana forums sto iparhoune Ellines.  Afou imaste ta megalitera doumania, ti perimenis?Clown
 
Ego prigiriso safta ta forums apo to '98.  Iparho se pola forums ala me thiafortika niks.  Psakse ke 8a me sinadisis se ala.
 
Nase kala ke ta leme...loving it
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: giannitsa
Date Posted: 07 July 2007 at 23:07
gia xara sas.
katalathos sas brika alla prin apo ola thelo na rotiso
20"Thai eisai aytos poy psaxno?????????

eimai o giannitsa o see you. shematic fo radionic box exis???

an oxi file ok sorry apla tha eimai kai edo gia na matheno :)



Posted By: george34
Date Posted: 08 July 2007 at 10:08
paidia thelw na paragilw seeds apo to sensi,alla den kserw poso asfales einai.
Opoios exei paragilei as pei an yparxei kanena provlima.

To kouti me ta seeds einai tyligmeno me kapoio xarti?

thanks!


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 15:27

Giorgo,

 

Mi fovase file, ksero para polous pou agorasoune apo tin ellatha horis provlima.  In tiligmena poli kala gia na mi ta pianoune.  Sou sisto na da agorasis apo tho:

 

http://www.drchronic.com - www.drchronic.com

 

Ehis ke kales times o DrChronic ke ine alithnos anthropos.  Ali bori na se klepsoune, ala ohi aftos.

 

Mi fovase, afti pou ta poulane the theloune na piastis giati theloune na agorasis pali ke pali.

 

Sto kalo.



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Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 15:31

Ela giannitsa,

 

Ego ime re magga.  Pos pas?  Kita ta pm's sou .



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Posted By: ganjafarian
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 17:52
bravo re magkes xreiazotan afto to forum k mia ellinikh fwnh stin teliki exoume mia kapoia paradosh sto thema.. loving it    synexiste k tha to stiriksoume oloi mazi !!!


ps. thai20  de nomizw oti katalavainei kanenas apo emas ti les..


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 31 July 2007 at 04:26
krima...
 
Clown


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Posted By: paradox
Date Posted: 17 August 2007 at 07:46
Geia xara se olous!
Fantasma esena epsaxna kai bre8hka se auto to forum! Meta 8ymi8ika to 20'thai nickname apo to OG.   Xairomai  pou  se synantaw  kai  pali file! BTW  katalabenw  ta  panta apo auta  pou grafeis Thumbs Up
Check you PM


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 12 October 2007 at 12:41
Originally posted by paradox

Geia xara se olous!
Fantasma esena epsaxna kai bre8hka se auto to forum! Meta 8ymi8ika to 20'thai nickname apo to OG.   Xairomai  pou  se synantaw  kai  pali file! BTW  katalabenw  ta  panta apo auta  pou grafeis Thumbs%20Up
Check you PM
 
 
Giasou re Para filarako.Embarrassed
 
Oli e anthropi me katalavenoune re file, mono e kathisterimeni vlahi ke ta tsopania the me katalavenoune...LOLOL!!!
 
Ela ta leme file.loving%20it


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Posted By: tjotjos
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 17:13
xaireto ki ego me ti seira  moy ola ta alania  poy briskontai edo.etsi prepei.
ligoi kai kaloi.
 
20 thai ithela na se rotiso poso kairo flow thelei to afghani xsweet tooth?


Posted By: paradox
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 08:21
Geia sou file tjotjo. Ligoi kai kaloi opws to les...

To afghani x Sweet tooth pou les einai diko sou cross? Apo pou phres ta sporia?

Egw exw megalwsei ksexwrista afghani apo to sensi kai ena poly kalo sweet tooth apo Barneys. Ypo8etw oti auto to Sweet tooth einai to idio me to spice of life pou einai apo klono sweet pink grapefruit me dj's blueberry.

To Afghani einai typical indica. Einai poly grigoro sxedon autoflower. Htan etoimo telos Augoustou - arxes Septembrh, indoors den to exw dei alla ypologizw oti 8elei poly ligo flowering peripou 7 ebdomades.

To sweet tooth tou Barney bgazei perissotero indica alla exei kai ena pheno me sativa xaraktiristika. To indica pheno einai ki auto etoimo mexri tis 15 Septembrh, indoors pisteyw 8 ebdomades. To sativa pheno 8elei ligo perissotero.

Se cross afghani x sweet tooth den 3erw na sou pw, alla fantazomai to afghani 8a einai dominant opote ta offspring 8a einai perissotero afghani-like . Logika indoors se 7-8 ebdomades 8a eisai etoimos analoga me to pheno.




Posted By: tjotjos
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 12:17
basika ta seeds moy ta edose enas kalos filos.
sxetika apo poikilies kai crossses de gnorizo.
nomizo  omos oti to pio simantiko einai   to    how  to grow??  ayto  thelo na matho kalytera gia na pino kai kalytera tsigara.
 
poy lete exo parageilei apo sensi ( meso enos filoy moy apo germania)  kati  sporia kai mas klasane kanonika.kati mines tora.  re mages exoyme kamoia akri ekei mpas kai ta paroyme ta rimadia.  oxi tipota,einai kai pliromenaUnhappy


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 13:56

Giasou re tjotjo ke Para,

File, to Swt#3 x Afghani ine EiZi gro.  Tendoni thio fores sto flower ke kani flower gia kana 55imeres.  2 mines to pio pole.  Ine gligoro.  Mi to fovavese katholou filemou, ine ratsa pou ke kini pou then ehoun megalosi pote tha boresoun na da kataferoune efkola.

Paradox,

Did you post pictures of you outdoor WhiteLabel Nev'sHaze in this forum yet?  Let the people see the beauty in the outdoor forum or in the strains forum.

 
...and yes Para, I gave him the seeds.  I made them from an outstanding and sticky MALE Swt#3, and a SensiSeeds Afghani girl that I selected from over 200... she was the biggest fattest and most potent in the batch.  Teh Male SweetTooth pollen would make the seed bract of any plant that you hit it with swell to double its size in less than 5 day of impregnation.  Very virile pollen, and it looked like a female more than a male... very heavy and wide sidebranching, more than some of the females in facct.  I kept it origianlly thinking it was a girl, and I was shocked to see ti was a male when it sexed.

I'm gonna look out your NevHz, post it here mate.loving%20it



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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: paradox
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 23:04
Geia xara file 20'!
Den mporw na kanw post tis photo.
Stin arxh mou elege oti kanei upload mexri 100Kb. Ekana ola ta pic resize se auto to mege8os kai otan phga na ta anebasw den ta anebaze h mallon ta exane mesa se ena megalo directory...Angry Meta katalaba oti to account mou den kanei upload kai prepei na ta balw se ena public server kai meta na kanw link apo ekei edw gia na mporei na ta dei kapoios. Too much trouble mate. They want to save some $ on bandwidth and storage charges and they sacrifice quality for it. It's a bit time wasting to go into all the trouble opening an account to a storage server that would take pics, upload them there and link it from there just to show a pick from what this forum is about....Angry

Maybe one of this days when I ll have some time to kill I ll give it a go.





Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 04 November 2007 at 13:43
http://www.imageshack.com -
Upload pics to your hearts content for free and they give you the url to paste into any forum...
 
 
www.imageshack.com


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Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: cbr_929k
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 17:45
PATPIDES MOY,MOLIS SHMERA SAS BRHKA EIMAI POLY SYGHNIMENOS OTAN BRHSKO ELHNARES EXO EROTISEIS ME AKOYEI KANEIS?


Posted By: Tony77
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 14:43
geia sas palikaria!
Ithela na rotiso gia paragelia apo sensi seeds gia sporia pros ellada.
Kata poso einai asfalis apo (batsous ennoo) na parageileis seeds? epeidi dineis dika sou stoixeia k dieythinsi.. Kai episis an exei parei pote kaneis meso taxydromeiou an borei na mou pei tin diadikasia...?
elpizo na apadisei kapoios thnx!high



Posted By: Spiritual
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 04:51
Gia sas patriotes!!!!. Eimai kainourios sto Forum, epatha plaka poy brika Ellines edo mesa

Na sas zaliso kai ego me erotiseis an epitrepete

Loipon

1.Se poses meres erxontai ta Seeds apo ti stigmi pou ta paragelneis? Den tha ithela na meinoune gia poly ora sto taxydromeio

2.Ta fyta pou einai gia indoor growing mporoune na megalosoyne kai ekso sti fysi an einai kalos o kairos? To kalokairi gia paradeigma?

Tony77. Diavasa edo mesa oti einai asfales na parageileis seeds apo edo kai na erthoune Ellada. Ego pantos to riskara, apla periemeno na erthoun.

To dyskolo einai pos na krypseis ta fyta .


Posted By: de pinw re
Date Posted: 03 June 2008 at 21:57
geia xara se olous sas.epitelous k ena elliniko forum epsaxna kairo gia kati tetoio


Posted By: de pinw re
Date Posted: 04 June 2008 at 16:25
Cool katarxas mpravo sou 20'Thai gia th douleia sou sunexise etsi!!!so%20high
tha thela na se rwthso apo lampes ti mporo na valo gia indoor kai posa watt?hps de vrisko edw!!!uparxei tpt allo?
lampes fthoriou kanoun?gia dwse kamia sumvouli



Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 29 December 2008 at 06:02
Giasou file,
 
Sorry pou sou apadao toso arga.
 
Pigene etho ke rota ta peithgia sto PlanetGanja.  Afto to forum in Elliniko ke oli milane ellinika ke tha sou poune pou na pas na vris oti sou goustari gia ta votanika mas...
 
Ala ti thinami fos ke tipos fos hriazese esi the bori kanis na sou pi an the tou pis poso megalo ine to thomatio sou, posa fita thes a megalosis.....


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Posted By: bobmastouras
Date Posted: 01 March 2009 at 01:50
geia k xara se olous me to planetganja ti trexei k den mpainoume????


Posted By: Tony77
Date Posted: 01 March 2009 at 01:57
Nai re paidia ti egine?? to planetganja exei pesei!
les na tin epesan tpt xakerobatsoi??%3cuch
 
 20Thai pou se  kai mastoras xereis ti egine??


Posted By: bobmastouras
Date Posted: 01 March 2009 at 21:39
tony idea den exw mono o thai 8a mas pei h kanenas filos............kala einai na vroume kanena site na trypwsoume%3coint


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 04 March 2009 at 11:21
Then ime sigouros akomi re pethgia.  Mi pate ospou na kseroume ti ginete.   

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Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: akistriantas
Date Posted: 04 March 2009 at 22:02
Geia sou Thai telika ma8ame ti egine me to pg????giati egw exw tis anisixies mou kai den 3erw ti na kanw....afti tin stigmi exw kati pou megalwnoun kai skeftomai na ta kratisw i oxi???Esi ti les ti na kanw??Onomata kai genika stoixeia den exw dwsei alla kai pali apo tin ip...les na ginei kanena ntou apo mpatsous kai na exoume kanena provlima?????Exoun paliotera piasei atoma apo to net i genika na exei ginei tpt sovaro???Thanks file


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 01:01
Hold on fellas... there is nothing to worry about.  Even if it was busted and now being run by the pigs in disguise, you Greeks growing a few plants indoors is NOT who they would target.  Afti theloune poli pio megalitera tsargia apo sas pethgia.  But don't post there until we are sure.  Ke opios then ehi thosi onomata e stihia... DOUBLY forget it.  And anything you have already posted, you do not have to go and delete because they would have a fully copy of it anyway.  They are not after growers like you, they want the BIG FISH only.  Big fish make for big promotions and small fish take up too much time without promotions in the police force.  Stop worrying and don't panic.  Even if the worse has happened, it won't effect you I guarrantee that.  This is not the first time I have lived through a dope forum being busted... and it won't be the last... if in fact it was, which I cannot confirm.
 
den pinw re file,  Metal halide will do the job if you can't get HPS.  Fluorescent will too, but small yielding, unless it is done properly like here:
 
Yield per square foot of "floor space" would address the vertical aspect of your question. Below is my contribution to the http://users.lycaeum.org/~npkaye/Y_O_R.html - Yield-O-Rama , it's equal to that of HPS.
 
http://users.lycaeum.org/~npkaye/multishelf.html - http://users.lycaeum.org/~npkaye/multishelf.html  
 
Quartz Halagon by itself is NOT good, but if you line all your walls with RED cellophane/selofan, RED, no other color, then you can grow good plants as if it were almost the same power in HPS or MH.  The Red cellophane reflection places the light spectrum into what is needed for decent photosynthesis and cannabinoid activation.  But QHalagon by itself is NO good. 
 
LED arrays are also good, so long as they are made for plant growth and not just for lighting up your bedroom.
 
Oti eho grapsi se aglika ke the do katalavenete, pesmouto ke tha sas ta eksigiso se Ellinika.
 
Gia magges :D


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Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 02:48
...ke ena alo magges,
 
Toha pi se polous oti ine kalitera namaste se forum sa gie touto para sto PG e ala forums pou then ine sto DAM.  Tou DAM e nomi mas prostatevoune pio poli apo tou Canatha ke ala krati.  Ospou then boroun e batsi na do klisoune pote, oute na do piraksoune.  An rotisoune to SensiSeed na dou thosi information e stihia gia tous members mesatho tha dous pi na pan na gamithoune, ke as ehoune oti COURT ORDER theloun apo tin Ameriki.  Ta COURT ORDERS tis Amerikis ine sa koloHarto sto DAM... they make good toilet paper.
 
Sas toha pi re pethgia, ke akomi etsi in ta pramata.  Much safer here than any other forums that are NOT based in Amsterdam.  Precident has already been set in Canada with OG, HStairway, CWorld and MarcEmery.  The Canadian government has sold out to the DEA so nothing there is sacred anymore, not even PG sorry to say.
 
Up to you pou leme.     


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Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 03:18
For those who wish to know about security regarding many aspects of Cannabis, I highly recommend these sites, but you must know how to read the Queen's English:
 
http://www.1stmarijuanagrowerspage.c...ice-encounter/ - http://www.1stmarijuanagrowerspage.c...ice-encounter/
  
...and some EXCELLENT information here regarding 'Passing a Drug Test'.  It the best info on the subject that you will find to date and it supercedes ANYTHING written about it in the url I gave you above^^^ at the 1stmarijuana site.
 
http://www.planetganja.com/highsociety/showthread.php?t=7913 - http://www.planetganja.com/highsociety/showthread.php?t=7913
 
Also some nice tips on Guerrilla growing outdoors and how to avoid being busted here:
 
http://users.lycaeum.org/~npkaye/simpleoutdoor.html - http://users.lycaeum.org/~npkaye/simpleoutdoor.html
 
All good stuff.


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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

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Posted By: scourouhi
Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 11:55
Arxidia,den mporw na grapsw sta Ellhnika?


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και τ' άλλο πόδι σηκωμένο σ'ένα τσάμικο
την φούντα σου τινάζεις και στην αιώνια ζωή μας κατεβάζεις...


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 12:21
LOLOLOL!!! 
 
Fair enough matey, I know what you mean.  Try typing it up in Word, then copying and pasting it into a jpeg file, then post it as a picture.%3clown
 
Where would you be without me re Scouro???
 
LOLOL!!!!


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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: scourouhi
Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 13:04
Lost in space...

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Πονηρέ Θεούλη, πατάς εκεί που μας πονάει
και τ' άλλο πόδι σηκωμένο σ'ένα τσάμικο
την φούντα σου τινάζεις και στην αιώνια ζωή μας κατεβάζεις...


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 13:28
You must be close to me then. lolol   You always make me laugh matey.
Fire away in GreekLish or English... as usual filemou.  The aliens taught me well.%3c3c3c3cmoking
 
In the meantime...  pata!
 
The mother Scouro, the best Bouzouki player in town mate, the very best:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLKxvjbWULQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLKxvjbWULQ
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_VmPIYPsrA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_VmPIYPsrA  
 
I love it mate, I love it I tell ya.


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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: scourouhi
Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 19:39
 Stevie was the best on the planet.
Frank Zappa was of the very few that could match with him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgReuKYsnG0


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Πονηρέ Θεούλη, πατάς εκεί που μας πονάει
και τ' άλλο πόδι σηκωμένο σ'ένα τσάμικο
την φούντα σου τινάζεις και στην αιώνια ζωή μας κατεβάζεις...


Posted By: scourouhi
Date Posted: 05 March 2009 at 20:33
Just a test.


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Πονηρέ Θεούλη, πατάς εκεί που μας πονάει
και τ' άλλο πόδι σηκωμένο σ'ένα τσάμικο
την φούντα σου τινάζεις και στην αιώνια ζωή μας κατεβάζεις...


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 06 March 2009 at 03:03
I don't know about Zappa file, to me he was more an artist than a musician, if that makes any sense?  I like a little more organization in my music, and he was too spaced out for my liking.  I'm not an fan of psychodelics, as I'm not a fan of any toxin that's erronously classified as a recreational drug by the medical fraternity to suit the needs of the illuminati, and whenever I hear his music I feel one needs be on them to appreciate it more.  So I know I could never appreciate it to its fullest exent.
 
Though he deserves credit as an artist, there can be no doubt about that.  He was a visionary and at times almost prophetic in is understandings of life overall.  Much smarter than your average person, I give him that... and he had a dry sense of humour that I also liked.
 
I MUCH prefered listening to him talk than anything else sorry to say. 
 
In his very own words just before he passed away, "I don't think my music had any great influence on anyone."  Even to his dying day he was an honest and aware man.  One thing's for certain as with all good people, he shall be missed, and I doubt there'll ever be another Frank Zappa.
 
Where on earth are all the boys Scouro?  Don't tell me they crapped themselves and have gone into hiding with the mysterious happenings at PG?  Surely not?  They have nothing to fear, I hope they understand that.
 
Oh well, we shall see.
 
 
 


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I look at the world as all do, but I see something different

Always do RIGHT; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.


Posted By: scourouhi
Date Posted: 06 March 2009 at 06:15
They are showing up -one by one- to the playground again ,Thai.

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Πονηρέ Θεούλη, πατάς εκεί που μας πονάει
και τ' άλλο πόδι σηκωμένο σ'ένα τσάμικο
την φούντα σου τινάζεις και στην αιώνια ζωή μας κατεβάζεις...


Posted By: scourouhi
Date Posted: 06 March 2009 at 08:58


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Πονηρέ Θεούλη, πατάς εκεί που μας πονάει
και τ' άλλο πόδι σηκωμένο σ'ένα τσάμικο
την φούντα σου τινάζεις και στην αιώνια ζωή μας κατεβάζεις...


Posted By: 20'Thai
Date Posted: 06 March 2009 at 11:56
Afta pou sou ipe o anthropos sou Scouro ine OLA SOSTA.
 
Peithgia, min akoute ke pistevete ti lene sta TELEVISIA oti boroun na mas piasoune efkola sta forums.  An itan etsi to zitima, giati atomo sa ge mena then ehi pathi tipota otan klisane as poume to OG?  Apo to 1998, os to 2005, PRIN protovro to Elliniko forum mes sto OG giati totenes THEN ipirhe itan mono kana thio THREADS pousade e Ellinares ke then mou pige to mialo pote na psakso giathafta, ekana post apo 6,500 os 11,000 posts KATHE HRONO.  KATHE hrono os 11,000 posts thikamou.  Ke kserete pos kano post, ohi mia thio grames malakies, selithes.  Sta Aglika ime apirahtos sti dahitita pou ta thiavazo ke ta grafo se keyboard.  110 word per minute no problem.  Ta thahtilamou ginoude ola ena soma an ta kitaksis otan grafo me to keyboard.  Giati apo 21 hronon os 36 thouleve me megali computer compania etho se technical support, tehniki ipostiriksi.  Giafto poli pou tous milo me PM's mou stelnoune apadisi, ke mes se oute 5 lepta lavenou tous stelno alo pm poune therio, les ke iha mia e thio ores na do grapso.lolol  As rotisete to Kanasvoura na sas to pi.lolol 
 
Ospou an then me ihan piasi otan epese to OG e ke otan litourgouse, the brokete na me piasoune POTE.  Giati ta PC sistimata ke to inet akomi thoulevi opos thouleve totenes.
 
An kserate ti HARDWARE ke posous technical WIZARDs theloun na pisoune ekinous pou milane ke pane se SITES gia pethofilies, the tha do pistepste.  Kapote pianoune ena, ke e ali this-ekatomirii akomi ine elefteri.  Ke ekinone pou pianoune ine apo tous hiroterous, pou leme sta aglika, BIG FISH mes stis pethofilies tou kosmou.  Ke gia na don pisaoune prepi na valoun tosous polous tehnikous apanotou pou tous koustizi 100's of thousands of dollars gia na piasoune mono ina... ke MINES e HRONIA akolouthisma.  Ospou sas fenete oti tha halasoun ta mounia hundreds of thousands of dollars gia na piasone to mitso e to gianni pou meni stin Athina e sti Patra ke megaloni 5 os 10 fita pou oute ehoun to varos pouhi ina kalo fito stin eksohi?  You must be joking!!!LOLOL!!!  O judge tha dous kselothrepsi an pane sto COURT me tetio prama.  Tha kseftilistoune re pethgia.  Bori ke na hasoun ti thoulia tous sto telos.  NO JOK.  Then ine toso efkola ta pramata alios EGO e thaha pisasti apo the ke pola hronia, e thaha ksafanisti pou ta forums... mazi me polous alous.
 
Otan pianoune kanenane sta forums, the do kanoune etsi sta koutourou.  To meletane poli to zitima sta eksis.  Prota penoune oti ine kanoniki users me thikotous nik.  Ke siga siga markaroune ekinous me megala GROW, mono tous HODROEBOURES.  Ke siga siga meta apo hronia tous koroithevoune ke pernoun tin ebistosisni tous.  Pise ke ftasoun se afto to poson, arhinane ke tous lene na dous stiloune kana APISTEFTO sporo me APISTEFTI ratsa pou kseroun oti tha di theloune.  Ke afti horis na do skeftoune, dous thinoune sistasi na da stiloune.  MEta, it's over.  Ke as ine alounou filu tous e sistasi, ton akolouthoune OLOUTHE ospou na dous pai sto PSARAI pou theloun na piasoune.  Akomi ke ki, then boroune me IP na dous kanoun tipota, giati to IP kseroune oti thane pseftiko ke then akolothoune tripes ston aera, the dous plironi.  Afta ta pramata ginoude mono prosopikos.
 
Ke pou spasane/kananBUST to OG to therio, sas fenete me IP to kanane?  Kserhasteto.  Me tis sistases pouthene afedikos me ta sporgia pou polage me to Heavens Stairway kserane pou na pane na kitaksoune.  Alios tha perimenane ke os simera na dous vroune me mono IP.
 
Ke mi ksehasete pethgia... sas fenete oti ego tha sas elega na pate (as poume) sto thanato sas, an iksera oti ipirhan megales pithanotites na piastite tora pou bori na egine kati me to PG?  Pou bori?  giati akoma then ime ke sigouros.  Afou amesos sas ipa oloune na mi kanene PM se kanenane me STIHIA SAS.  Giati mono me stihia boroun na kanoun kati, ke
MONO an dous fenete oti isaste megali growers, hodroebores.  Alios ksehasteto.  Ego remagges ime anthropos pou an matho oti kapios apo sas epathe to kako apo kati pou sas ipa ego na kanete, the tha boro na kimitho kala gia poli gero.  Borike na arostisos... melikrina sas milo.  Then ime gaithouri sas alous pou kserete, ego ime poli eusuveithitos anthropos.  The prothino oute kano kamianou to kako ke as mouhoun doufeki sto kefali.   
 
Apo OLOUS tous users sto OG, ke isade tou laisto 50,000 pragmatiki, kserete posous kanane BUST otan to klisane??  MITHEN.  ZERO.  ZILTCH.  KANENANE.
 
Ke sas fenete oti tha treksoun tora na sas vroune?  Oxxxx.LOLOLOL!!!!
 
Ke na do thelate na gini the ginete re filarakia mou, ke na do thelate.LOLOL
 
Elate, etho mi fovosaste kanenane,  oute mes sto forum oute me ta PMs.  Imaste tora sto DAM, ohi sto kanatha oute stin Ameriki... ke as imaste sta teleftea thio, the kanoun tipota an then isaste HODROEBORES.  The dous plironi... horis prow8ises, ke horis  thikasteria AKRIVA pou proun na fane oli e SKILI kala, the konoude ta katharmata.  Niostete kala afto.  The dous plironi.  E batsi ke ta thikastiria ine OLI registered COMPANIES, ke horis kalo KERTHOS the kounoude pouthena.  Mono an to zitima ine megalo ke kseroun oti tha kratisi e thikia poli kero ke tha kostisi POLA lefta gia na gini.  Alios, the thoulevoune afti, opos the thoulevoun e ergates sena ergostasio an the plirothoun gia ta kopia tous.  Ala e thikostous o mistos ine ppoli pio megaliteros apo tous ergates.  Afti inen e mon thafora o enas me ton alon.
 
Sas ipa tin alithia,tora re filimou kanete oti sas goustari, thikosas kapelo ine.  Kamia nou alou.
 
Gia pethgia.%3c3coving%3c20it    


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