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Printed Date: 14 August 2018 at 10:37


Topic: Weak/tall seedlings
Posted By: egawish
Subject: Weak/tall seedlings
Date Posted: 24 June 2005 at 15:04

Hello everybody,

Well yes it's my first time  to grow at home and i need you to help me.

After placing the seeds in the medium and after it gets tall, i find it falling. Kind of being heavy so it falls. What should i do?? i wake up in he morning to find my favorite one (bigger leaf) down and i find it semi broke (if yu know what i mean?).

Should i place a match or toothpick to help it stand or what should i do????????




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Posted By: dmdm
Date Posted: 24 June 2005 at 15:21
yeah get support for your babies, and get a fan and blow across your plants this helps strenghen the stem.

maybe look at what light they recieve as too much/little can make them rather lanky and fall over.

what light do they get ?.



Posted By: egawish
Date Posted: 24 June 2005 at 21:04
hey dmdm, thanks for your reply. well since they are in the medium they get plenty of light but not direct light. For your info i live Egypt (plenty of sun and light). I tried to put a toothpick but i can't really tied it to it. If it;s not tied then the tooth pick is for no good.


Posted By: dmdm
Date Posted: 24 June 2005 at 23:18
as long as it leans on it should be okay, failing that get 2-3 straws and sort of trap it in.

there is a away of making stem stronger by pinching the stem(soft tissue)

but i dont do this and would need someone else to help.


Posted By: Ganja
Date Posted: 28 June 2005 at 15:07

You should definitely expose your seedlings to a gentle breeze from a household fan (on the lowest setting). This will cause constant, gentle movement, which will quickly make the stems stronger.

Seedlings fall over like this when they are germinated in an environment with static air. In nature, the seedlings will experience a breeze from the first moment they emerge from the soil. With constant gentle movement, the stem strengthens like an exercising muscle.

If you want to attach your seedlings to a stick or toothpick while they are being exposed to the fan, you can use a 'twist-tie'. These are the strips of wire enclosed in plastic, that are used to tie garbage bags and to bind coiled power-cords in new electrical equipment.

Get a twist tie and wrap one piece several times around the stick. You should be left with a few centimetres of plastic-coated wire protruding from the stick at 90 degrees. You can bend this piece of the twist-tie into a hook. Now you can stand the stick in the growing medium your seedling can rest against the hook until it can support itself.



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Posted By: Dazed&Confused
Date Posted: 03 June 2007 at 07:23
I had a sijmiliar problem with seedlings about an inch to two inches high. The main stems got REALLY thin. Like a hair. And just as weak. They would lay over the sides of the pots completely limp.

I asked a lady at a local nursary about this and she said that it sounded like something that happened with the seed producer / farmer. She said it sounded like some kind of bacteria or genetic defect. I'm not so sure as I had this happen with two packs of Bubblelicious seeds bought months apart, and now it looks like it may  be on my next batch of seeds, Northern Haze19 x Skunk. Anyway, don't know what it is. The first two times I used Jiffy Pellets transplanted into Jiffy Pots. This time I germed in damp paper towels ( the way I always have ). Germed fine. I transplanted them. Three didn't come up through the soil,and now it looks like the main stem on 3 of them is shrinking. Down to five plants from ten. Getting REALLY skinny.  I feed with plain water or weak seaweed fert solution. They dry out daily or sooner. I water them every morning. How close should light be to seedlings. Dont want to fry them and dont want them stretched out.


Posted By: Grasso
Date Posted: 03 June 2007 at 14:58
Hello,

you should provide enough short-wave ("blue", "coolwhite", "daylight") radiation since it feeds the phototropism of the plant.

Uli

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Posted By: Ganja
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 14:14
Originally posted by Dazed&Confused

The main stems got REALLY thin. Like a hair. And just as weak. They would lay over the sides of the pots completely limp
...now it looks like the main stem on 3 of them is shrinking. Down to five plants from ten. Getting REALLY skinny.... How close should light be to seedlings. Dont want to fry them and dont want them stretched out.


Do your seedlings receive plenty of moving air?

If not, this is why they're falling over.

It's not a problem with the seeds - young plants are supposed to gain height rapidly.

The problem lies in the plants not receiving all the elements of natural growth - light, water, nutrient and moving air
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Posted By: Dazed&Confused
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 15:50
PLENTY of moving air. Had an oscillating circulation fan inside. Any stronger and they would've had NO chance of standing up.
Even though never did..


Posted By: Ganja
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 16:40
I've never seen that.

Was the breeze strong enough that you could see the movement in the plants?


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Posted By: Signum
Date Posted: 04 August 2008 at 21:26
Originally posted by Ganja

You should definitely expose your seedlings to a gentle breeze from a household fan (on the lowest setting). This will cause constant, gentle movement, which will quickly make the stems stronger.

Seedlings fall over like this when they are germinated in an environment with static air. In nature, the seedlings will experience a breeze from the first moment they emerge from the soil. With constant gentle movement, the stem strengthens like an exercising muscle.

If you want to attach your seedlings to a stick or toothpick while they are being exposed to the fan, you can use a 'twist-tie'. These are the strips of wire enclosed in plastic, that are used to tie garbage bags and to bind coiled power-cords in new electrical equipment.

Get a twist tie and wrap one piece several times around the stick. You should be left with a few centimetres of plastic-coated wire protruding from the stick at 90 degrees. You can bend this piece of the twist-tie into a hook. Now you can stand the stick in the growing medium your seedling can rest against the hook until it can support itself.

 
so for outdoor growing as well, it's good to start with a smooth fan as soon as the first green appears above surface?
 
my last grow had to be tied up constanly en might break, a strong stem is always better especially when you move your plants from sunny spot to sunny spot.....


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